Fake player count

[Sam]

A lot of people are having severe difficulty reading the OP, so I've removed those few first sentences so they pay attention to what is important and stop saying the exact same thing over and over again.

EDIT: https://truesteamachievements.com/game/The-First-Descendant/achievements
According to this only 2300 people have ever even unlocked the achievement on Steam out of their sample size of hundreds of thousands.

That's a total of 2% of players having completed the achievement according to the accurate sample size. These accounts are privately tracked so no Steam bugs can occur.

The game can only be detected on 3000 accounts out of the entire community.
So let's be generous and multiply that number by 10 for private accounts, that's 30K.

Nope, fake numbers.

EDIT: For the people saying visual bug, look at any tracking website. It all matches!

[Sam]

Originally posted by Monk:

Originally posted by Bluecomet:

*checks my own steam client*
*immediate discrepancy from OP's post*
???
Just a troll with a hidden profile, 99% chance they play destiny2 or warframe lol

Haha it wasn't private before, guess he didn't like being called out gir not playing it.

The guy who kept spamming "stupid" over and over again, started to harass me personally. Because I didn't like his favorite porno video game. You're still here, huh?

[Elvi]

Originally posted by Sam:

This data doesn't come from my account, it comes from a community driven Steam Achievement Tracking website. This has all been used for years.

It's funny reading these responses, seeing how "high" I was, how paranoid I am, or how dumb I'm supposed to be, but not a single one of you had read anything that was discovered or discussed.

You're all just spamming "visual bug" over and over again like that explains anything. It means literally nothing.

If anyone can provide any evidence the player count is accurate, (other than a personal insult), I'm more than willing to listen!

You are claiming that Nexon, in collaboration with Steam corp. are faking player numbers to scam potential customers. It's a big claim. That's a huge claim, with possible legal rammifications.

The simple answer is that the achievement tracking on Steam is still bugged / very iaccurate, just as it was for years.

Please consider again who is making big claims and needs to provide evidence.

[BloodMagicLord]

I don't think he is trolling, it shows the same for me https://postimg.cc/4Yt3Z6z1
But yes it's probably just a bug with the achievements.

[Sam]

Originally posted by BloodMagicLord:

I don't think he is trolling, it shows the same for me https://postimg.cc/4Yt3Z6z1
But yes it's probably just a bug with the achievements.

If it's a bug, it's happened on every single account on Steam. At the same time. Along with all community tracking websites.

[Dark Exile]

Originally posted by Arkanghell's:

Originally posted by Sam:

https://truesteamachievements.com/game/The-First-Descendant/achievements
According to this only 2300 people have ever even unlocked the achievement on Steam.
The game can only be detected on 3000 accounts.
So let's be generous and multiply that number by 10 for private accounts, that's 30K.

Nothing close to 230K!

You need to link your steam account to be part of their stats, no one does that.

^ This. i dont even know who that website is but im not linking my steam to it lol, at least steam DB is using the api to get accurate figures

[Sam]

Originally posted by Elvi:

Originally posted by Sam:

This data doesn't come from my account, it comes from a community driven Steam Achievement Tracking website. This has all been used for years.

It's funny reading these responses, seeing how "high" I was, how paranoid I am, or how dumb I'm supposed to be, but not a single one of you had read anything that was discovered or discussed.

You're all just spamming "visual bug" over and over again like that explains anything. It means literally nothing.

If anyone can provide any evidence the player count is accurate, (other than a personal insult), I'm more than willing to listen!

You are claiming that Nexon, in collaboration with Steam corp. are faking player numbers to scam potential customers. It's a big claim. That's a huge claim, with possible legal rammifications.

The simple answer is that the achievement tracking on Steam is still bugged / very iaccurate, just as it was for years.

Please consider again who is making big claims and needs to provide evidence.

Achievement tracking in the Steam Client is incorrect, but community driven Steam API powered tracking is currently almost 100% accurate as the accounts self-report to the website.

The website provided has been used as an accurate measure of play count, playtime and achievements for every other game.
It puts games like Elden Ring at, 180K finishing the first achievement.

This is a Steam Forums thread, this isn't an article in the New York Times. I don't think anyone is going to take it seriously. According to the responses of the people here, I think people would rather pretend I'm some crazy person instead of facing what I have proved.

[Sam]

Originally posted by Dark Exile:

Originally posted by Arkanghell's:

You need to link your steam account to be part of their stats, no one does that.

^ This. i dont even know who that website is but im not linking my steam to it lol, at least steam DB is using the api to get accurate figures

I explained this to someone yesterday, but I'll do it again.

It represents a sample size, which is the basics in all statistics. I don't want you to link your account. This website and almost all tracking websites use the SteamAPI.

[Dark Exile]

Originally posted by Sam:

Originally posted by Dark Exile:

^ This. i dont even know who that website is but im not linking my steam to it lol, at least steam DB is using the api to get accurate figures

I explained this to someone yesterday, but I'll do it again.

It represents a sample size, which is the basics in all statistics. I don't want you to link your account. This website and almost all tracking websites use the SteamAPI.

Except its not because you claim out of millions of players, elden ring only has a tiny fraction finish the first achievement.

At this point you're just trolling

[TehG00SE]

You just havent proved anything. literally plugging your ears and stomping your feet on repeat.

[Sam]

Originally posted by Dark Exile:

Originally posted by Sam:

I explained this to someone yesterday, but I'll do it again.

It represents a sample size, which is the basics in all statistics. I don't want you to link your account. This website and almost all tracking websites use the SteamAPI.

Except its not because you claim out of millions of players, elden ring only has a tiny fraction finish the first achievement.

At this point you're just trolling

A sample size represents a piece of the larger community. We use that part to calculate what the rest of the community is doing. It's the basics of all statistics.

https://www.coursera.org/articles/what-is-sample-size

[Dark Exile]

Originally posted by Sam:

Originally posted by Dark Exile:

Except its not because you claim out of millions of players, elden ring only has a tiny fraction finish the first achievement.

At this point you're just trolling

A sample size represents a piece of the larger community. We use that part to calculate what the rest of the community is doing. It's the basics of all statistics.

https://www.coursera.org/articles/what-is-sample-size

So its not using the actual api to get actual solid numbers from the steam database, you're just guessing.

Thanks for clarifying you are in fact a troll.

https://gyazo.com/03bbcb1f65e9c698c8d7dbe05692ed3f heres a sample of people claiming to use the API, its doesnt really match the actual database numbers does it.

[Sam]

Originally posted by TehG00SE:

You just havent proved anything. literally plugging your ears and stomping your feet on repeat.

Let me explain it to you personally.

When you do the same math process to calculate how many people are playing a game for Elden Ring, compared to this game.

Elden Ring comes out at around 180K completing the first few achievements, compared to only 30K completing it for this game. Despite the almost identical player count.

There's a giant hole in this game. Hundreds of thousands of accounts, which haven't even equipped a single mod but are "playing" the game.

[Nessie the Plesiosaur]

Its not fake player count, most players are causal dont even know mods existed. They running around with empty mods.

[Sam]

Originally posted by Dark Exile:

Originally posted by Sam:

A sample size represents a piece of the larger community. We use that part to calculate what the rest of the community is doing. It's the basics of all statistics.

https://www.coursera.org/articles/what-is-sample-size

So its not using the actual api to get actual solid numbers from the steam database, you're just guessing.

Thanks for clarifying you are in fact a troll.

https://gyazo.com/03bbcb1f65e9c698c8d7dbe05692ed3f heres a sample of people claiming to use the API, its doesnt really match the actual database numbers does it.

Why are you acting like this? You know that's not what we're talking about, right? I think you're just intentionally trying to be mean.

[Kenjjoo]

Originally posted by Sam:

https://imgur.com/a/lxWqcDj

Just took this screenshot right now after restarting Steam, it's the Global achievement list. I've chosen the Global list as it has nothing to do with personal accounts.
It's right there guys...

It's gone down to 0.0% in this conversation.
Someone's making thousands of accounts and running this game only.

I really do not know what you are on about my man. These are "Global Achievement" statistics for me.

https://imgur.com/a/eZa96fe