Is this really the endgame loop?

[FallenActual]

So I have 4 descendants maxed and have beaten normal mode, I switched over to hard mode and besides people not being able to kill the hardmode bosses due to dps/time limit is the end game grind really just grabbing random anaomalis materials (usualy on normal mode atleast from the random stuff I'm trying unlock for side quests) and killing an associated boss usually really easy with level 100 gear and not getting the roll on the material so doing it all over again, and again, and again. Am I missing something

edit: Oh and no match making on operations in hard mode for whatever reason, they reused the same mission structure for 99% of the game and saved so much development time to forget that.

[Blanchimont]

Yep, this is basically it for a looter shooter. The lack of matchmaking for hard mode is what really kills the game. The raid mechanics for the Hanged Man and hard mode bosses like Frost Walker don't help either.

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by Blanchimont:

Yep, this is basically it for a looter shooter. The lack of matchmaking for hard mode is what really kills the game. The raid mechanics for the Hanged Man and hard mode bosses like Frost Walker don't help either.

yeah playing with randoms it took me a while to get people who knew what to do for hangman but, yea the lack of hardmode matchmaking really kinda killed me will to grinding random stuff for the lols of it

[BalthierGR]

i dont even play hard waste of time theres no point i have all my gear lvl 100

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by BalthierGR:

i dont even play hard waste of time theres no point i have all my gear lvl 100

yea I was hoping for a reason for hardmode like making more xp for decadents rather that farming that one mission in kingston for easy levels or maybe gear kept going above 100 so the hard mode boss levels made more sense but nope

[Shining_Darkness]

Originally posted by FallenActual:

Originally posted by BalthierGR:

i dont even play hard waste of time theres no point i have all my gear lvl 100

yea I was hoping for a reason for hardmode like making more xp for decadents rather that farming that one mission in kingston for easy levels or maybe gear kept going above 100 so the hard mode boss levels made more sense but nope

I think some stuff only drops from hardmode bosses or at least that is what the info on some of the descendant mats for the ultimate versions say.

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by Shining_Darkness:

Originally posted by FallenActual:

yea I was hoping for a reason for hardmode like making more xp for decadents rather that farming that one mission in kingston for easy levels or maybe gear kept going above 100 so the hard mode boss levels made more sense but nope

I think some stuff only drops from hardmode bosses or at least that is what the info on some of the descendant mats for the ultimate versions say.

yea this is true, but from what ive looked up some of the best weapons in the game are generic purples atm

[robotech_master]

Hardmode drops some stuff that isn't in normal mode. Also Hardmode is the "true" end game as you get mastery xp for doing almost anything. Keep in mind that the devs probably assumed that people won't be getting into hard mode until they had mastery 15+. I think they made solo bosses easier then they planned and thus people have been able to bypass derp teams and push faster and further. Which is why dungeon runs are so painful because people are lacking a ton of extra modules slots and more legendary weapons.

[robotech_master]

Originally posted by FallenActual:

Originally posted by Shining_Darkness:

I think some stuff only drops from hardmode bosses or at least that is what the info on some of the descendant mats for the ultimate versions say.

yea this is true, but from what ive looked up some of the best weapons in the game are generic purples atm

As far as I've seen outside the thunder cage most of the legendary weapons are trash. I have hope for the 2 shotguns since they seem to have a good buff. Only really benefit right now is you get an extra option(rares get 3 and utly get 4). How much of a boost that is.... not all that much.

[Neonblast]

This tells you a lot about the dev team behind this game. They copy/pasted most from Warframe, and some from Destiny. But is like they did it 10 years ago. pasted the bad things, failing to copy the good things such as:

- MM for hard mode
- trading system allowing you to earn Premium currency while playing the game via third-party auction sites like in Warframe.
- clans and clans HQ's
- in depth customization
- Anything else instead of Unreal engine which is known for mmorpg optimization issues

Adding the above in time will do no good to this game ( especially knowing the Nexon game life spawn is around 1-3 years or so ). These supposed to be here from day one, because these are " quality of life " things, not something you need to wait for.

If you are staring an electric car company in 2024 your first prototype should be something with all the 2024 basics, not a supermarket cart with a washing machine engine attach to it and call it " electric car ".

[ButtahNips]

"Is the endgame of this looter shooter the same as every other looter shooter?!" yes, yes it is.

[robotech_master]

Originally posted by Neonblast:

This tells you a lot about the dev team behind this game. They copy/pasted most from Warframe, and some from Destiny. But is like they did it 10 years ago. pasted the bad things, failing to copy the good things such as:

- MM for hard mode
- trading system allowing you to earn Premium currency while playing the game via third-party auction sites like in Warframe.
- clans and clans HQ's
- in depth customization
- Anything else instead of Unreal engine which is known for mmorpg optimization issues

Adding the above in time will do no good to this game ( especially knowing the Nexon game life spawn is around 1-3 years or so ). These supposed to be here from day one, because these are " quality of life " things, not something you need to wait for.

If you are staring an electric car company in 2024 your first prototype should be something with all the 2024 basics, not a supermarket cart with a washing machine engine attach to it and call it " electric car ".

Keep in mind that this game was supposed to launch in 2022/3 and basically stopped/ near stopped dev for like 6-9 months.

The MM for hard mode I suspect is on the way. Its likely a server issue with the options selected to run the dungeon. Rest.... probably.... maybe someday. The encrypted vaults and some other things need to go. Hopefully some other things will be adjusted. They are still having server and lag issues. Going to be awhile before we get new content because they are playing around with that stuff.

[Shining_Darkness]

Originally posted by ButtahNips:

"Is the endgame of this looter shooter the same as every other looter shooter?!" yes, yes it is.

Except worse because it is designed to make you say "♥♥♥♥ this, where's my wallet"

[◬ ☥ 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕜 ☥ ◬]

Originally posted by Shining_Darkness:

Originally posted by ButtahNips:

"Is the endgame of this looter shooter the same as every other looter shooter?!" yes, yes it is.

Except worse because it is designed to make you say "♥♥♥♥ this, where's my wallet"

And you still have the power of choice. Don't. Or do.

[Shining_Darkness]

Originally posted by ◬ ☥ 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕜 ☥ ◬:

Originally posted by Shining_Darkness:

Except worse because it is designed to make you say "♥♥♥♥ this, where's my wallet"

And you still have the power of choice. Don't. Or do.

Entirely missed the point my guy. Don't suck nexon's ♥♥♥♥, you know exactly where it's been.

[ButtahNips]

Originally posted by Shining_Darkness:

Originally posted by ButtahNips:

"Is the endgame of this looter shooter the same as every other looter shooter?!" yes, yes it is.

Except worse because it is designed to make you say "♥♥♥♥ this, where's my wallet"

Except the grind is pretty comparable to warframe IMHO