The First Descendant

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Stat page is useless without partners info.
It's nice that we can see our numbers at the end of a mission, but it's pointless without seeing our partners info as well. Cool, I did 6 mil damage. Ok? Did I do worse or better than my partners? I assume I did worse since I'm not Bunny killing everything.
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Kashra Fall Jul 5, 2024 @ 9:45am 
It's your info. Seeing other's info would just create elitism.
Joikax Jul 5, 2024 @ 9:47am 
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
It's your info. Seeing other's info would just create elitism.
What he's saying is that without no means to compare you can't really tell if you're pulling your own weight or if someone else might be pulling yours.
Skuall Jul 5, 2024 @ 9:47am 
Abomination is right.
Kashra Fall Jul 5, 2024 @ 9:48am 
Originally posted by Joikax:
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
It's your info. Seeing other's info would just create elitism.
What he's saying is that without no means to compare you can't really tell if you're pulling your own weight or if someone else might be pulling yours.

And what I'm saying is, it's a team game, so just play as a team? If you win, that's a victory. If others see your info, or you see theirs, it creates elitism or envious players. It's not a welcome addition in any game and it's why games now adays have steered away from it.
Tallenn Jul 5, 2024 @ 9:50am 
Originally posted by Joikax:
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
It's your info. Seeing other's info would just create elitism.
What he's saying is that without no means to compare you can't really tell if you're pulling your own weight or if someone else might be pulling yours.
Agreed. Maybe it would be nice if you could opt-in to share your stats with the team? Or how about just this: Maybe and average for all players for that mission? Probably better would be an average for players within a range of your level.

I'm with the OP. I just want to see how my performance stacks up.
Joikax Jul 5, 2024 @ 9:51am 
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
Originally posted by Joikax:
What he's saying is that without no means to compare you can't really tell if you're pulling your own weight or if someone else might be pulling yours.

And what I'm saying is, it's a team game, so just play as a team? If you win, that's a victory. If others see your info, or you see theirs, it creates elitism or envious players. It's not a welcome addition in any game and it's why games now adays have steered away from it.
It doesn't stop people from complaining about spongy bosses and "useless teammates" in void intercepts.

You cannot avoid elitism just like you cannot avoid criticism wherever you go.
This isnt WoW Mythic keys, its a pve game, just play and enjoy lol
Kashra Fall Jul 5, 2024 @ 9:53am 
Originally posted by Joikax:
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

And what I'm saying is, it's a team game, so just play as a team? If you win, that's a victory. If others see your info, or you see theirs, it creates elitism or envious players. It's not a welcome addition in any game and it's why games now adays have steered away from it.
It doesn't stop people from complaining about spongy bosses and "useless teammates" in void intercepts.

You cannot avoid elitism just like you cannot avoid criticism wherever you go.

Perhaps, but that isn't driven by "I was totally doing everything! This guy wasn't doing a thing!" if they see you participating, then it is generally a complaint on how many times you went down, not how many 0's you didn't put into the boss's HP bar. My friend does the same thing "How much damage did you do?" I don't even look at the end result page lol, but when I did, I did 2.9m more than him in a mission and he was like "HOW?!" short answer? Viessa's skills hurt. Point is, we beat the mission and both profited from it.
Abomination713 Jul 5, 2024 @ 9:57am 
I'm just curious in Intercept battles if I'm pulling my weight or I have to go back to the drawing board to improve my DPS output since they are timed battles and every shot counts. I've failed two so far (one of them we won right as the timer hit zero so we got the loot, but not the completion).
Djozar Jul 5, 2024 @ 9:57am 
Originally posted by Tallenn:
Originally posted by Joikax:
What he's saying is that without no means to compare you can't really tell if you're pulling your own weight or if someone else might be pulling yours.
Agreed. Maybe it would be nice if you could opt-in to share your stats with the team? Or how about just this: Maybe and average for all players for that mission? Probably better would be an average for players within a range of your level.

I'm with the OP. I just want to see how my performance stacks up.
If you're participating, you're pulling your weight. I don't want to see stats of the kid that can't play objectives or the kid that AFKs behind a wall. I already know they did nothing. Your own stats will tell you if you participated. I guarantee if I'm in a group with you, I'm pulling my own weight, so you don' need to worry about me. I don't need you to be my mommy.
Kashra Fall Jul 5, 2024 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by Abomination713:
I'm just curious in Intercept battles if I'm pulling my weight or I have to go back to the drawing board to improve my DPS output since they are timed battles and every shot counts. I've failed two so far (one of them we won right as the timer hit zero so we got the loot, but not the completion).

Want to know if your damage stacks up? Run one solo and see if what you were doing was even hurting the boss. I believe you also unlock a training area after mastery 8? Might be 9.
Abomination713 Jul 5, 2024 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by Djozar:
If you're participating, you're pulling your weight. I don't want to see stats of the kid that can't play objectives or the kid that AFKs behind a wall. I already know they did nothing. Your own stats will tell you if you participated. I guarantee if I'm in a group with you, I'm pulling my own weight, so you don' need to worry about me. I don't need you to be my mommy.
It's always so weird how defensive some of you people get over seeing the stats of others. I've been playing games for a long time and the amount of elitism around your partners stats only happens in very end game PVE situations where everyone needs to pull their weight. If they did include stat, you wouldn't have to look at them. Doesn't mean others don't wish to see them for their own reason.
Kashra Fall Jul 5, 2024 @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by Abomination713:
Originally posted by Djozar:
If you're participating, you're pulling your weight. I don't want to see stats of the kid that can't play objectives or the kid that AFKs behind a wall. I already know they did nothing. Your own stats will tell you if you participated. I guarantee if I'm in a group with you, I'm pulling my own weight, so you don' need to worry about me. I don't need you to be my mommy.
It's always so weird how defensive some of you people get over seeing the stats of others. I've been playing games for a long time and the amount of elitism around your partners stats only happens in very end game PVE situations where everyone needs to pull their weight. If they did include stat, you wouldn't have to look at them. Doesn't mean others don't wish to see them for their own reason.

Um, collosi are timed boss encounters. They are the content you're talking about and would be what people complained about. No one is going to chastize you over falling in a normal mission because you get 8 revives. Not to mention your death timer is basically sitting still. Where as collosi is 3 deaths and you die extremely quickly.

I don't personally care how I did, or how my team did, provided we kill the intended target and all get loot from it. As long as I see you participating. Then that is enough for me.
Teetz Jul 5, 2024 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
It's your info. Seeing other's info would just create elitism.
Says the peasant
Kashra Fall Jul 5, 2024 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by Teetz:
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
It's your info. Seeing other's info would just create elitism.
Says the peasant

Case in point, even without the info, you're resorting to namecalling. Now add the info in and well, you see the problem.
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Date Posted: Jul 5, 2024 @ 9:44am
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