This game has 2 anti cheat system.

[Unrecognized]

This game has Easy Anti Cheat and Black Cipher at same time. It is normal that one game has two different anti cheat system? Also, this Black Cipher anti cheat was blocked by my anti-virus software because of "Credential Stealing Attacks".

[Irot Noot]

Not normal, I've never heard of a game having multiple before. Black Cipher is the name of Nexons own anti cheat. Why they would use EAC along side it is curious. I suspect EAC does something that Black Cipher doesn't for them. Who knows what.

[Oreo]

What is your anti virus if I may ask? I have kaspersky just wanted to know what you have.

[MrHustler]

Finding it hard to use your cheats only a cheater would be complaining about something that keeps away cheaters the more the better!

[RhoAias]

Originally posted by MrHustler:

Finding it hard to use your cheats only a cheater would be complaining about something that keeps away cheaters the more the better!

it's not really about cheats. generally when you have an anti-cheat it consumes resources in the background of your pc and it doesn't really matter. BUT when you have 2 as in this case the only thing they do is to harm the game because they try to detect things at the same time.to do this consume 3 times more resources and that is due to the FPS peaks. with EAC should be enough. it does not have the greatest security in the world but being an online game could not do much more than aimbots and trainers that being a game without pvp would not make much sense.

[Ellie]

Originally posted by MrHustler:

Finding it hard to use your cheats only a cheater would be complaining about something that keeps away cheaters the more the better!

Actually running 2 anti cheats conflicts with each other and increases resource usage power. Has nothing to do with "being a cheater" Stop being foolish. Try to actually use your single working braincell.
No wonder the game stutters like a POS.

[Irot Noot]

Its my bet that the Black Cipher is more to protect their cash shop infrastructure from cheating, leaving EAC for the actual game cheating. Just a hunch, based on nothing other than Nexon owns Black Cipher and can presumably modify it for their specific needs.

[MrHustler]

Originally posted by RhoAias:

Originally posted by MrHustler:

Finding it hard to use your cheats only a cheater would be complaining about something that keeps away cheaters the more the better!

it's not really about cheats. generally when you have an anti-cheat it consumes resources in the background of your pc and it doesn't really matter. BUT when you have 2 as in this case the only thing they do is to harm the game because they try to detect things at the same time.to do this consume 3 times more resources and that is due to the FPS peaks. with EAC should be enough. it does not have the greatest security in the world but being an online game could not do much more than aimbots and trainers that being a game without pvp would not make much sense.

Originally posted by Ellie:

Originally posted by MrHustler:

Finding it hard to use your cheats only a cheater would be complaining about something that keeps away cheaters the more the better!

Actually running 2 anti cheats conflicts with each other and increases resource usage power. Has nothing to do with "being a cheater" Stop being foolish. Try to actually use your single working braincell.
No wonder the game stutters like a POS.

Are we living in 1990 or 2024 you guys are acting like we're running potato PCS!

[Sublime Entropy]

I have a decent computer and it looks and runs like dog sometimes. I was super happy to find out you can cross-save play because, it plays so much better on my X. Likely because of MS infrastructure they don't need all this running in the background

[◬ ☥ 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕜 ☥ ◬]

Originally posted by Unrecognized:

This game has Easy Anti Cheat and Black Cipher at same time. It is normal that one game has two different anti cheat system? Also, this Black Cipher anti cheat was blocked by my anti-virus software because of "Credential Stealing Attacks".

unfortunately its becoming more and more normal. Companies don't understand what they're doing. Sometimes it's more malicious and sometimes less so.

When world and rise (monster hunter) came out they had both denuvo (lol) and capcoms in-house DRM. Pretty overkill especially in the case of world where their ♥♥♥♥♥♥ code would loop over and over checking CRC every couple seconds or something goofy. wasting resources, making things run ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ON TOP of denuvo goofball DRM already existing.

The biggest scam game companies ever had done to them was whoever at denuvo convinced them all that this somehow helps their product. The problem lies in the fact that often investors and ceos only give a ♥♥♥♥ about the first few weeks sales because its the "biggest" sales period. They think people who pirate games are going to buy their game if they can't pirate it which is hilariously untrue. People usually pirate games because they can't afford them. Theres no loss because they never would have bought the game in the first place, but they treat it like a loss because well... i dont know someone at DRM companies convinced them that its potential lost money. It's just a giant goof-storm of goofy-tastic proportions.

The most hilarious part is that these companies have to pay MONEY to use DRMs like EAC/DENUVO/XIGNCODE etc. LOL

As for the goofy argument about cheaters, feel free to show me a denuvo game without cheaters or cheats it doesn't exist because it doesn't work. Look at the finals for an example. you can use any popular multiplayer game as an example. Every game has cheaters unforch and drm doesnt stop them. Even EAC doesnt work, look up videos of people using hacks on black desert online when they switched back to easyanticheat and then again when they switched back to xigncode2. It never stopped them it just stops the most obvious stuff like opening up Cheat Engine and making your character run around faster or some ♥♥♥♥. basic level stuff

All that being said I don't really give a ♥♥♥♥ either way if a game is full of cheaters I won't play it and if a games DRM makes it run like ♥♥♥♥ I also wont play it. It doesn't seem to be making my game run like ♥♥♥♥ so I don't care in the end personally, although I do understand why some people do care.

[Unrecognized]

Originally posted by Mr JiggleBottoms:

What is your anti virus if I may ask? I have kaspersky just wanted to know what you have.

I am using 360.