Are the amorphous percentages bugged?

[[SG] kal_lmn]

Okay, I was trying to farm a new descendant, and decided to go for Valby; however, during the grind, I collected 3 amorphous 9, and 3 amorphous 16... the only two I can currently get for Valby without progressing the story. Her parts are both a 38% drop chance (far right on 16, and second to the left on the 9 which is also still a 38% chance). I collected 3 of each because STATISTICALLY at least, with a 38% chance, that should be a fairly certain drop... I may have to go a couple extra rounds based on luck, yea, but it was a good starting point.

Now comes in the weird... kind of offputting part. I started on the Amorphous 9 by killing Stunning Beauty 3 times. ALL three times, I got the Python Synthetic Fiber... which is the other 38% drop chance item. I was sad, but chalked it up to bad luck. So I went for the Amorphous 16. First try I got the valby part. COOL, right? SO I thought I may as well use the other Amorphous anyways, who knows, I may get that juicy Energy Activator part. But no, 2 more Valby parts. Weird. I got 3 of the same drop from my first Amorphous, 3 of the same drop from my second Amorphous... I only have 3 other amorphous which was Amorphous 17 because I was saving a few to try for the Ultimate Bunny part. The Far right 38% on that one is the Smithereens Blueprint. Guess what I got ALL three times.

SO... now for some calculations. that is ALL 9 Amorphous I used, I got not just A 38% drop.... but specifically the exact far right one. I'm bad at math, so let's even put this in the game's favor and GROSSLY overestimate the drop chance and just say.... that far right drop chance is a 50% chance for easy maths. That is a 1 in 2 chance per drop. The odds I get 1 in 2.... NINE times in a row is (1/2)*(1/2)*(1/2)... etc. so doing that nine times, that gives me a 1 in 512 chance, or just under a 0.2% ... and remember, the ACTUAL number is WAY worse than that because I grossly overesdtimated the drop chance at 11 in 2... not the actual number which is something like 1 in 2.6 (38% compared to 50%).

This seems WAY too coincidental and feels like something is up. Either the odds are WAY off of face value and not really the labelled values shown in game, or I may have just won the lottery of trash.

Anywho, I did try a random other Amorphous I had laying around and did manage to get the OTHER 38% drop chance, but now have no other amorphous, and wanted to come here and see if anyone else is having a similar experience, because frankly... I feel kind of cheated that out of 10 runs, I never got something from the 24%(2 * 38% = 76% so the remaining percentage of rare/good items is 24%) "good" pool of stuff.

[Llenn]

Im in the bad luck train. Tried to get one valby component bp. So far 15 tries between the amorphous 20 and the one opens in devourer (dont remember the name... Got 8 for the lance weapon blah and 7 for the python. Yeah something is really off.

[A New Pest]

welp im at 20 in a row for vralby code....keep getting the weapon part...kinda absurd

[Δsh]

100% feels weighted towards the far right option, no doubt about it.

[HolyCrab]

123 Amorphus Pattern of the same type, that's 123 missions done for one yellow mod and I'm on day 3 straight farming this one mission still no luck

[Silentflow]

I farmed amourphous 2 to try and get the shotgun like unique. I got 5 Gley components (far right). For kicks I just tried to open all my amorphouses on bosses 1, 2 and 3 as it's easy kill for me, and each and everytime I got the far right option. That's like 10 AM opened and every single time I got the far right option. That's a 0,06% chance of happening (0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38). Looks like a bug and I would recommend not to open anymore AM until we have an official statement by Nexon on this

[VeraelHasta]

Originally posted by Silentflow:

I farmed amourphous 2 to try and get the shotgun like unique. I got 5 Gley components (far right). For kicks I just tried to open all my amorphouses on bosses 1, 2 and 3 as it's easy kill for me, and each and everytime I got the far right option. That's like 10 AM opened and every single time I got the far right option. That's a 0,06% chance of happening (0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38). Looks like a bug and I would recommend not to open anymore AM until we have an official statement by Nexon on this

Well I'm farming the 002 right now for gley, I opened like 8 of them so far and no gley. Gimme yours lol.

[Yume no Akuma]

tldr .... anyway i got every valby part the first try

[The Overlander]

its not bugged you just had really bad luck i farmed valby yesterday in about 3 hours but ive spent more than 8 hours total now trying to get ajax mats cuz they just wont drop games just like that warframe is like that too

[VeraelHasta]

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

Originally posted by Silentflow:

I farmed amourphous 2 to try and get the shotgun like unique. I got 5 Gley components (far right). For kicks I just tried to open all my amorphouses on bosses 1, 2 and 3 as it's easy kill for me, and each and everytime I got the far right option. That's like 10 AM opened and every single time I got the far right option. That's a 0,06% chance of happening (0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38). Looks like a bug and I would recommend not to open anymore AM until we have an official statement by Nexon on this

Well I'm farming the 002 right now for gley, I opened like 8 of them so far and no gley. Gimme yours lol.

Another 4 opened. I even got the energy activator, still no gley, wtf xd

[Silentflow]

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

Originally posted by Silentflow:

I farmed amourphous 2 to try and get the shotgun like unique. I got 5 Gley components (far right). For kicks I just tried to open all my amorphouses on bosses 1, 2 and 3 as it's easy kill for me, and each and everytime I got the far right option. That's like 10 AM opened and every single time I got the far right option. That's a 0,06% chance of happening (0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38 * 0.38). Looks like a bug and I would recommend not to open anymore AM until we have an official statement by Nexon on this

Well I'm farming the 002 right now for gley, I opened like 8 of them so far and no gley. Gimme yours lol.

I wish I could, I'd exchange it for the shotgun piece I'm after ! I'll try again I guess, let's see if I end up with 10 gleys...

[TrafficJam]

Farming valbys stabilizer which has a 38% drop rate from the amorphous 29, have done the intercept battle close to 9 times now and I have only gotten the Gregs weapon blueprint which is also 38%....something seems off, or I just have the luck of bad luck brian

[Ruina]

Nexus have a patent system (not a joke): if you have 3 of 4 parts the drop chance goes down with every try.

[Giratina]

Originally posted by TrafficJam:

Farming valbys stabilizer which has a 38% drop rate from the amorphous 29, have done the intercept battle close to 9 times now and I have only gotten the Gregs weapon blueprint which is also 38%....something seems off, or I just have the luck of bad luck brian

Definitely something with the game, farming for the stabilizer too and after about 15-20 attempts all i've gotten is the gregs piece and one python piece. something is off with rates on certain pieces

[YaksterX]

I have gone through 87 "Haven" dungeon runs to get AM043 and 87 "Swamp Walker" Colossi to try for the 3% Ultimate Viessa part. I got 64 Restored Relic Blueprints (36% drop rate), 13 Albion Cavalri blueprints (other 36% drop rate), and 10 Crystallization Catalysts (15% chance). Yeah, I don't think the numbers are correct. The longest drop streak was the Restored Relic, which dropped 19 times in a row, and that is not 36%. It honestly feels like a waste of time at that point. I am almost halfway through seasonal "use AMs" just because of that. This RNG is rigged for sure lol.

[Talle]

Originally posted by YaksterX:

I have gone through 87 "Haven" dungeon runs to get AM043 and 87 "Swamp Walker" Colossi to try for the 3% Ultimate Viessa part. I got 64 Restored Relic Blueprints (36% drop rate), 13 Albion Cavalri blueprints (other 36% drop rate), and 10 Crystallization Catalysts (15% chance). Yeah, I don't think the numbers are correct. The longest drop streak was the Restored Relic, which dropped 19 times in a row, and that is not 36%. It honestly feels like a waste of time at that point. I am almost halfway through seasonal "use AMs" just because of that. This RNG is rigged for sure lol.

please farm in hard mode for the top materials in the relics it will half the amount of runs you have to do on average.

and as for the RNG being rigged it really isnt you can start adding up the probability of getting an item with some basic math

P=1-((1-D)^X)
P= probability
D= drop rate
X= relics opened

with 3% at 87 runs you have a 92% of getting it but sometimes you can just be straight up unlucky

where if you take it at 6% if you were on hard mode you would have halved the time it took to hit 92% with only 41 runs

as for the amount of times something dropped and landed on a certain item it will just be up to chance and can be difficult to calculate because the game isnt set up to be like this item has a 1/5 chance its all % based so sometimes you can just be crazy unlucky