20% droprate is a lie

[Glardian]

If your farming for Freyna and you've done Ruins path 20 times now and still no Stabilizer thats because it and some other "20%" droprates are bugged.

EDIT: Before any naysayers say the obvious "rng is rng" multiple people have reported problems specifically with this mission. At some point it stops being a coincidence and a genuine bug with the droprate

[Ectype Kowlefe]

Originally posted by TrueTerror:

Originally posted by Sasquatch Senpai:

20% doesn't mean you'll get it on the 5th try no matter what.

I means you can get it on the first. 2nd. 20th. 100th. Learn percentages and probability.

Too many people have never played games where RNG and probability is the backbone like MTG or ♥♥♥♥. jfc.

its just you dont understand i have 6 yellow modules with chance of 1.5% and 0 parts with 20% its just scum.

I get that feeling, I have 2 bunny mods and 0 valby but thats the run Im doing where the event and boss both have a 1.5% chance. Welcomed to probability sadly.

[Manslayer]

Originally posted by Overeagerdragon:

Originally posted by UnhappyCLOWN:

Again. That isn't how that works. Have 5000 people flip a coin and if you land on heads you move on to the next round. The odds of there being someone who wins and lands on heads 20+ times until he wins, is 100%. This is the exact same thing, only backwards, and with 20 percent chance instead of 50.

Actually; there's that freak instance where NOONE will win in the scenario you posed... it's VERY unlikely that it will happen but you know the saying "Flip a coin enough times and it's bound to land on its side eventually"

Except, you can easily have the last say, 2, land tails and no one wins. Unless you mean keep flipping heads until only one flips heads, which in that case that person didn't have to flip heads 20 times in a row. That's to say like 1 in 50k or something, I am not going to do the math.

Gamblers fallacy is the concept if the probability of landing something x times in a row and now landing z is the same, as to say if you land heads 15 times in a row the cha ces of tou landing tails or heads on the 16th is the same probability.

However, we are not talking about getting it on the 16th try, we are talking about how people are getting 15 in a row to begin with, not that they think the 16th will suddenly increase their chsnces.

[malakadil]

1x Freyna Stabilizer
Location: Vespers Normal – Ruins Path . being trying for 30 or 40 times still 0% drop . only getting two weapons

[malakadil]

Originally posted by UnhappyCLOWN:

1st piece on 4th try. 2nd on 5th, and 3rd on 1st. Seems close to 20% to me.

maybe for you . 1x Freyna Stabilizer
Location: Vespers Normal – Ruins Path trying to get this done it 10 to 20 times only getting weapons

[Witski]

Originally posted by SilvaBlad3:

Originally posted by FuFo Da HALOSHOCK:

Oh yeah? Where?

on this youtuber video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqi9bubkjoI

Funny, i did Ruins two times and got it.
Guess 20% is realistic, what's more funny is that guys reading crap and act like they are factual only if it's " drama ".
How people can be that stupid when comes to basic math...

[Pitty]

It is so funny how people dont understand the 20% chance xD

Again 20% chance PER RUN wich dont means after 5 runs you have it.

[Candy]

Originally posted by UnhappyCLOWN:

1st piece on 4th try. 2nd on 5th, and 3rd on 1st. Seems close to 20% to me.

I need you in literally every grind fest I run

[Zenmuron]

You all realize the drop rates are a lie and they are there to drive to you the cash shop and make you give up right?

[Magical_JiJii]

Shelter one is a lie too I have ran like 10+ times not a Freyna part. ♥♥♥♥ them.
Korean made games are always lie when it comes to %. AND we are talking about Nexon, one the greediest companies on earth

[JumpoWompo]

ive noticed that on some missions u have to come back at a later time or completely go back to albion and then back to the mission so that way u can get the items faster instead of it taking 30+ tries

[VeronaKate]

The percentage drop rates are completely backward Especially on boss fights . 4 x in a row a 3 % reward and nothing else out of 4 items that all have far higher drop rates like 33 % you would think the chances of getting that 33% would be rather high but Its totally understandable . I think their percentage numbers are backwards like their books . That or the percentage rare is in fact a lie to keep you comping back for more . Got to love how they use false numbers to make players think they have a high chance to get it when really that number is just an illusion to trick you into trying . If they gave the real percentage number which I am sure is quite very VERY low then no one would bother coming back for more ! Its a great manipulation strategy to keep you interested in the game . ROFL . I know how these systems work . Just keep trying you will get it or fork over the big bucks and buy it .

[Gias]

Originally posted by DU-wang:

Today I remind them that it has been proven in a court of law that Nexon has lied about drop rates and intentionally altered them on the fly before because they thought too many people were getting something they want to be rare.

Yea.

This + the other listed loot isnt dropping at expected rates either. Mods are listed 50% in said mission and i saw most runs 0 drops at all. People focus on what they want but consider the entire loot table and the likelihood of what you see given listed rates is even way lower.

[TokusatsuTV]

Originally posted by Glardian:

If your farming for Freyna and you've done Ruins path 20 times now and still no Stabilizer thats because it and some other "20%" droprates are bugged.

EDIT: Before any naysayers say the obvious "rng is rng" multiple people have reported problems specifically with this mission. At some point it stops being a coincidence and a genuine bug with the droprate

wait....you think 20% means 20 tries? lol no, thats not how it works. think of it this way, yeah its a twenty percent droprate, but each time you enter the dungeon the chance to get that rerolls every session, so no, it wont take just '20 tries' to get it. it is absolutely based on rng if they reset your attempt counter each time you go in for ratios.

[Witski]

Originally posted by Magical_JiJii:

Shelter one is a lie too I have ran like 10+ times not a Freyna part. ♥♥♥♥ them.
Korean made games are always lie when it comes to %. AND we are talking about Nexon, one the greediest companies on earth

It's not Korea fault if people doesn't know basic math and how % works.

[◬ ☥ 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕜 ☥ ◬]

Originally posted by THEORKINMAN:

You all realize the drop rates are a lie and they are there to drive to you the cash shop and make you give up right?

prove it