20% droprate is a lie

[Glardian]

If your farming for Freyna and you've done Ruins path 20 times now and still no Stabilizer thats because it and some other "20%" droprates are bugged.

EDIT: Before any naysayers say the obvious "rng is rng" multiple people have reported problems specifically with this mission. At some point it stops being a coincidence and a genuine bug with the droprate

[Trig_Zero]

at least u haven't started with the Shelter one

[UnhappyCLOWN]

1st piece on 4th try. 2nd on 5th, and 3rd on 1st. Seems close to 20% to me.

[Overeagerdragon]

meh; got shelter one on first go... had to farm Ruins some 10x too before it dropped...

[Witski]

Originally posted by Glardian:

If your farming for Freyna and you've done Ruins path 10 times now and still no Stabilizer thats because it and some other "20%" droprates are bugged.

% doesn't work that way lol
You have 20% chances each run you do to drop it, if you do 10 doesn't mean you drop it.

[Trig_Zero]

Originally posted by Overeagerdragon:

meh; got shelter one on first go... had to farm Ruins some 10x too before it dropped...

5 on ruin path
15 on the other one
40ish on shelter
my luck is the WORST

[Overeagerdragon]

Originally posted by Witski:

Originally posted by Glardian:

If your farming for Freyna and you've done Ruins path 10 times now and still no Stabilizer thats because it and some other "20%" droprates are bugged.

% doesn't work that way lol
You have 20% chances each run you do to drop it, if you do 10 doesn't mean you drop it.

yeah people don't understand that a dropchance of 20% means it's 80% likely of NOT dropping....there's no dropgarrantuee system either so you might just farm it 100x not to get it on any of those runs... or maybe 100x too...

Rng is what RnG does...

[UnhappyCLOWN]

Originally posted by Overeagerdragon:

Originally posted by Witski:

% doesn't work that way lol
You have 20% chances each run you do to drop it, if you do 10 doesn't mean you drop it.

yeah people don't understand that a dropchance of 20% means it's 80% likely of NOT dropping....there's no dropgarrantuee system either so you might just farm it 100x not to get it on any of those runs... or maybe 100x too...

Rng is what RnG does...

People don't understand RNG in general. Talk to some gamblers at a casino. It's hilariously sad.

[Reversepsycho16]

tried it over 10 times did not get it in shelter and then last 2 games i crashed so i gave up

[Glardian]

Originally posted by Overeagerdragon:

Originally posted by Witski:

% doesn't work that way lol
You have 20% chances each run you do to drop it, if you do 10 doesn't mean you drop it.

yeah people don't understand that a dropchance of 20% means it's 80% likely of NOT dropping....there's no dropgarrantuee system either so you might just farm it 100x not to get it on any of those runs... or maybe 100x too...

Rng is what RnG does...

Yes but when you have multiple people reporting on getting other items within 1-7 tries, but then everyone reports having to farm Ruins path 20-50 times to get the item, its no longer a coincidence. Its not the first time Nexon's lied about droprates

[Rogue]

Why don't you rephrase it? 80% of not getting is not a lie.

I know, I know, shocked pikachu face and whatever.

[Overeagerdragon]

Originally posted by Glardian:

Originally posted by Overeagerdragon:

yeah people don't understand that a dropchance of 20% means it's 80% likely of NOT dropping....there's no dropgarrantuee system either so you might just farm it 100x not to get it on any of those runs... or maybe 100x too...

Rng is what RnG does...

Yes but when you have multiple people reporting on getting other items within 1-7 tries, but then everyone reports having to farm Ruins path 20-50 times to get the item, its no longer a coincidence. Its not the first time Nexon's lied about droprates

That's true but it STILL might just be a coincedence... it's not like it's 20%x5 = 100% as that's usually the mistake people make... the chances don't add up or are multiplicative... it's 5~7 different instances of 20% chance.... which ALSO means 5 insular 80% chances of it NOT dropping...

It's why probability is great for games like these.... you are LIKELY to get it after some 5 drops but NOT garrantueed... like, AT ALL.

[UnhappyCLOWN]

Originally posted by Glardian:

Originally posted by Overeagerdragon:

yeah people don't understand that a dropchance of 20% means it's 80% likely of NOT dropping....there's no dropgarrantuee system either so you might just farm it 100x not to get it on any of those runs... or maybe 100x too...

Rng is what RnG does...

Yes but when you have multiple people reporting on getting other items within 1-7 tries, but then everyone reports having to farm Ruins path 20-50 times to get the item, its no longer a coincidence. Its not the first time Nexon's lied about droprates

Again. That isn't how that works. Have 5000 people flip a coin and if you land on heads you move on to the next round. The odds of there being someone who wins and lands on heads 20+ times until he wins, is 100%. This is the exact same thing, only backwards, and with 20 percent chance instead of 50.

[Hovedun]

Glardian, i runned some missions 10 times and got what i want.
Even 50% u can fail 10 times. Imagine now, how much you can fail at 20%.
Just keep farming, eventually u get it.

[Overeagerdragon]

Originally posted by UnhappyCLOWN:

Originally posted by Glardian:

Yes but when you have multiple people reporting on getting other items within 1-7 tries, but then everyone reports having to farm Ruins path 20-50 times to get the item, its no longer a coincidence. Its not the first time Nexon's lied about droprates

Again. That isn't how that works. Have 5000 people flip a coin and if you land on heads you move on to the next round. The odds of there being someone who wins and lands on heads 20+ times until he wins, is 100%. This is the exact same thing, only backwards, and with 20 percent chance instead of 50.

Actually; there's that freak instance where NOONE will win in the scenario you posed... it's VERY unlikely that it will happen but you know the saying "Flip a coin enough times and it's bound to land on its side eventually"

[Taiji]

Originally posted by Glardian:

If your farming for Freyna and you've done Ruins path 20 times now and still no Stabilizer thats because it and some other "20%" droprates are bugged.

EDIT: Before any naysayers say the obvious "rng is rng" multiple people have reported problems specifically with this mission. At some point it stops being a coincidence and a genuine bug with the droprate

If by 'multiple' people, you mean 80,000 people or more, then you have a point.