pay to win or nah?

[Nhika]

none of this bull crap about "it's pve only" cope nonsense LMAO

[Zethell]

If you can pay to progress, then it's pay to win.
And I hear it has pay to progress.

P2W has nothing to do with PvP.
People use cash shops in single player games to "win".

Winning indicates reaching the end, beating the game.

[Wolfgang421]

Originally posted by Nhika:

none of this bull crap about "it's pve only" cope nonsense LMAO

How does one win? Win you have maxed every weapons and character? Then yeah, money will help you get there. There is no competitive play with other players, so it isn't like someone paying to cut out the grind means you in any way lose...

[SLIMEY]

of course it is its a free game

[Necromancin]

Originally posted by Letozeth:

If you can pay to progress, then it's pay to win.
And I hear it has pay to progress.

hard pay to win, hundreds of hours vs 2 min wallet transaction

[Mike0811]

Its the same as Warframe everything is grindable nothing you buy does anything but shorten the time it takes to get it

[CrankyJay]

Y'all stop moving the needle on what P2W is. P2W used to (and still should) mean that you could by gear and weapons that give you a clear advantage for real money. Leveling tokens, and cosmetics are not P2W.

[Garven]

Originally posted by Wolfgang421:

Originally posted by Nhika:

none of this bull crap about "it's pve only" cope nonsense LMAO

How does one win? Win you have maxed every weapons and character? Then yeah, money will help you get there. There is no competitive play with other players, so it isn't like someone paying to cut out the grind means you in any way lose...

100% on point. I will also add... if you group with others that like to rush then just go at your own pace. You will catch up eventually.

[Necromancin]

Originally posted by SwankyJay:

Y'all stop moving the needle on what P2W is. P2W used to (and still should) mean that you could by gear and weapons that give you a clear advantage for real money. Leveling tokens, and cosmetics are not P2W.

People are dumb bro

[PapaTraffy]

Originally posted by Letozeth:

If you can pay to progress, then it's pay to win.
And I hear it has pay to progress.

P2W has nothing to do with PvP.
People use cash shops in single player games to "win".

Winning indicates reaching the end, beating the game.

I did notice you can buy more slots for your gear on the right hand side. Don't know exactly how it works though

[Camponês]

I honestly wouldn't even care... If the game was good...

[FunPolice]

It's pay to skip some grinding. Seems like you can earn everything by just playing though.

[Haru]

A player finishing content before you because they paid money in a game with no PvP does not fall under "pay to win," unless it is statistically not possible to beat said content as a free to play player. Stupid people throw the phrase "pay to win," around purely because they have fomo.

[paxtheconfused]

Originally posted by Letozeth:

If you can pay to progress, then it's pay to win.
And I hear it has pay to progress.

P2W has nothing to do with PvP.
People use cash shops in single player games to "win".

Winning indicates reaching the end, beating the game.

people who lose games reach the end of the game as well, but i guess that requires a first grade education to understand

[clumzylerch3000]

It definitely is. Even though its not pvp your still paying to get ahead and to unlock everything in the beginning of the game. I got to my first dungeon just to have three bunny classes aoe one shot everything. They ran so fast. I get half way through the dungeon just to get teleport to the boss. I barely even see the boss. So much for my first dungeon experience. Game hasn't even been out long at all and people already maxed from what I read online.

[Buttblight]

People and Companies have to make money from somewhere and in PVE games if people want to pay them to *not* play the game then that's a win win in my books.