DLSS Performance > FSR Quality

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is AMD for real? No wonder Nvidia gets away with such bad practices, their main competitor is completely incompetent.

pour one out for everyone without Nvidia 4000 series GPU

[Ninehundred]

I found that Intel XeSS was way better than both on my setup with this game, no quality loss whatsoever and better fps

[Ninehundred]

Originally posted by LordVini:

its the devs implementation itself not AMD, you have to figure out which up-scaling works better per game

this

[Majava]

amd gpu

[Manslayer]

Originally posted by Quagalicious:

The fact that we need to even use DLSS/FSR these days is the true incompetence of the game industry.

That doesn't make any sense, if I am not mistaken the cards, such as the 4070, are all about using DLSS and Frame Generation since it is part of the whole cards gimmick. Using AI, to create upscaled images and also create better performance.

It isn't that it is incompetence, it is how the cards have moved technologically, it is part of the cost of the card you are buying.

[MoppBoi37]

Originally posted by m99noble:

Originally posted by MoppBoi37:

you must live under a rock. upscaling and frame gen can be done on just about any graphics card either made from nvidia, AMD, Intel, and everything else in between.

Yes it can but that doesnt mean it is done with quality.
Nvidia DLSS is vastly superior image quality vs FSR.
FSR smears and blurs the image dramatically.
AMD Frame Gen is also terrible and introduces significantly more input lag WITHOUT giving you a smoother gameplay experience.
Nvidia FG by comparison the input lag is down in the .02-.03 milisecond range while increasing your PERCIEVED FPS by 25%-50% making your brain think the game is smoother on the eyes.

look i've played around with all of the upscalers in multiple games on multiple different hardware. all of them are fairly close to one another and cracks in either one of the 3 show up when you stop playing your game and start psycho analyzing every goddanmed pixel on your screen... regardless of the pros and cons of XESS, FSR, or DLSS... for the average user either of the 3 will work for them just fine.

i'm not here to discuss which is superior by an arbitrary 10-15% because my original point being is you don't need the latest scam to enjoy upscaling or frame gen. Intel and AMD are free for the masses and they are constantly being worked on and improved as well as lossless scaling which deserves an honorable mention

i long for the days when people debated the rasterizing horsepower of GPUs and not gimmicky features leveraged as a selling point to sell overpriced GPUs with minimal generational performance uplift.

with that being said i'm just going to have this video speak for itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWCWsF9Ymmw&t=326s

[MoppBoi37]

Originally posted by Manslayer:

Originally posted by Quagalicious:

The fact that we need to even use DLSS/FSR these days is the true incompetence of the game industry.

That doesn't make any sense, if I am not mistaken the cards, such as the 4070, are all about using DLSS and Frame Generation since it is part of the whole cards gimmick. Using AI, to create upscaled images and also create better performance.

It isn't that it is incompetence, it is how the cards have moved technologically, it is part of the cost of the card you are buying.

nah it's a gimmick because the core of a graghics card is still how powerful it is at raw raster and yet i see this topic wane from discussions as people squabble on about which upscaler is better, therefore you should buy the scam gpus.

we honestly shouldn't be using this tech as a crutch to be able to break or maintain 60fps in games.

[Manslayer]

Originally posted by MoppBoi37:

Originally posted by Manslayer:

That doesn't make any sense, if I am not mistaken the cards, such as the 4070, are all about using DLSS and Frame Generation since it is part of the whole cards gimmick. Using AI, to create upscaled images and also create better performance.

It isn't that it is incompetence, it is how the cards have moved technologically, it is part of the cost of the card you are buying.

nah it's a gimmick because the core of a graghics card is still how powerful it is at raw raster and yet i see this topic wane from discussions as people squabble on about which upscaler is better. therefore you should buy the scam gpus.

I literally said it was part of the whole gimmick. That said, I don't really understand your stance, do you dislike DLSS, like DLSS, like upscaling/frame generation etc. I feel as if my 4070 performs quite well with or without DLSS, and when I use DLSS it performs better, because it is using all the parts of the card.

[Quagimus Decimus]

Originally posted by Manslayer:

Originally posted by Quagalicious:

The fact that we need to even use DLSS/FSR these days is the true incompetence of the game industry.

That doesn't make any sense, if I am not mistaken the cards, such as the 4070, are all about using DLSS and Frame Generation since it is part of the whole cards gimmick. Using AI, to create upscaled images and also create better performance.

It isn't that it is incompetence, it is how the cards have moved technologically, it is part of the cost of the card you are buying.

Instead of optimization everything is wasted. Don't you just love seeing games that eat a quarter of your SSD? I love western dev memes. When you need to utilize frame generation or upscalling to even have a proficiency to have stable frame rate is poor developmental progress in the industry.. Not to mention the crutch of dealing with console platforms bottle necking the games industry as is.