The First Descendant

The First Descendant

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d Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:33pm
DLSS Performance > FSR Quality
is AMD for real? No wonder Nvidia gets away with such bad practices, their main competitor is completely incompetent.

pour one out for everyone without Nvidia 4000 series GPU :steamsalty:
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Quagimus Decimus Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:39pm 
The fact that we need to even use DLSS/FSR these days is the true incompetence of the game industry.
MoppBoi37 Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:40pm 
Originally posted by :
is AMD for real? No wonder Nvidia gets away with such bad practices, their main competitor is completely incompetent.

pour one out for everyone without Nvidia 4000 series GPU :steamsalty:
got Losstess scaling. i'm good. Nvidia thinks the features they market makes their GPUs unique and hot sh!t. you talk to NVIDIA fanboys and they will act like spending 1000+ on a gpu just to get access to these features is totally worth it when AMD/INTEL and everyone else is literally riding Nvidia's heels when it comes to this tech.
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PølseJuice Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:40pm 
Originally posted by Quagalicious:
The fact that we need to even use DLSS/FSR these days is the true incompetence of the game industry.

Imagine thinking your aging rig will be able to run the latest tech xD
MoppBoi37 Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:43pm 
Originally posted by PølseJuice:
Originally posted by Quagalicious:
The fact that we need to even use DLSS/FSR these days is the true incompetence of the game industry.

Imagine thinking your aging rig will be able to run the latest tech xD
you must live under a rock. upscaling and frame gen can be done on just about any graphics card either made from nvidia, AMD, Intel, and everything else in between.
Last edited by MoppBoi37; Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:43pm
LordVini Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:45pm 
its the devs implementation itself not AMD, you have to figure out which up-scaling works better per game
Boxer Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:46pm 
AMD has been the laughing stock of the PC community for 20+ years at this point, their only good product is CPUs and only because Intel literally stopped investing in consumer hardware and has the monopoly of the market by reselling the same cpu from 2011.
They try to be the jack of all trades pc hardware company when in reality people care about them only because of X3D and Epyc CPUs, everything else they do including software is terrifying to say the least.

There's a reason Nvidia owns 80% of the PC consumer market in GPU sales.
Last edited by Boxer; Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:46pm
PølseJuice Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by MoppBoi37:
Originally posted by PølseJuice:

Imagine thinking your aging rig will be able to run the latest tech xD
you must live under a rock. upscaling and frame gen can be done on just about any graphics card either made from nvidia, AMD, Intel, and everything else in between.

I'm talking about people assuming they can run newer games with old hardware

But not like i'm affected, since i'm an "nvidia fanboy" after all
Last edited by PølseJuice; Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:49pm
MoppBoi37 Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:51pm 
Originally posted by PølseJuice:
Originally posted by MoppBoi37:
you must live under a rock. upscaling and frame gen can be done on just about any graphics card either made from nvidia, AMD, Intel, and everything else in between.

I'm talking about people assuming they can run newer games with old hardware
you specified latest tech, not latest games. this game however isn't exactly groundbreaking visually or technologically. i've seen this game put a 4090 through the ringer it definitely is an unoptimized mess

i'm an Nvidia enjoyer as well. but i gotta call the cap when i see it.
Last edited by MoppBoi37; Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:52pm
m99noble Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:52pm 
Originally posted by Quagalicious:
The fact that we need to even use DLSS/FSR these days is the true incompetence of the game industry.

5800x3d 32gigs ram 4080 undervolted slightly over clocked
Temps (without my fan running) 80C cpu 72C GPU Fan on -20 degrees both parts
No Frame Cap
Ray Tracing High
Ultra Most Settings
High Shadows, Global Illumination, Reflections
DLSS OFF
Frame Gen OFF
75fps min 82 max 70 1% lows
3440 x 1440p

The only issues i get are when servers take a poop. Which is infrequent enough to not be a problem but happens enough to be notable.
AgX_28 Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:54pm 
I am using NO RAY TRACING (just don't)
Medium settings
AMD Quality

locked 95 fps

with a RTX 4050 laptop

(I don't see any difference in graphics between Ultra and Medium)
m99noble Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by MoppBoi37:
Originally posted by PølseJuice:

Imagine thinking your aging rig will be able to run the latest tech xD
you must live under a rock. upscaling and frame gen can be done on just about any graphics card either made from nvidia, AMD, Intel, and everything else in between.

Yes it can but that doesnt mean it is done with quality.
Nvidia DLSS is vastly superior image quality vs FSR.
FSR smears and blurs the image dramatically.
AMD Frame Gen is also terrible and introduces significantly more input lag WITHOUT giving you a smoother gameplay experience.
Nvidia FG by comparison the input lag is down in the .02-.03 milisecond range while increasing your PERCIEVED FPS by 25%-50% making your brain think the game is smoother on the eyes.
0b Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:56pm 
Originally posted by Quagalicious:
The fact that we need to even use DLSS/FSR these days is the true incompetence of the game industry.
Yeah, the fact that game companies cant optimize their game but can sell $70 skins is f**king WILD
MisCojones34 Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by PølseJuice:
Originally posted by Quagalicious:
The fact that we need to even use DLSS/FSR these days is the true incompetence of the game industry.

Imagine thinking your aging rig will be able to run the latest tech xD
Tell that to my aging rig with an RTX 4090, I9 13900K and 64gb DDR5, I need to use DLSS and frame gen to get stable fps on this game on 4k when I can play without any tech at 4k all other games
m99noble Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by PølseJuice:
Originally posted by MoppBoi37:
you must live under a rock. upscaling and frame gen can be done on just about any graphics card either made from nvidia, AMD, Intel, and everything else in between.

I'm talking about people assuming they can run newer games with old hardware

But not like i'm affected, since i'm an "nvidia fanboy" after all

If we are just talking about The First Descendant... this game has been in development for like 6 years and in UE5 for like 2 years. I wouldnt really say its a NEW game. Its made using old tech. lol it aint even got Lumen.
ele Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by Quagalicious:
The fact that we need to even use DLSS/FSR these days is the true incompetence of the game industry.

This is the one. Games are only getting worse.
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Date Posted: Jul 3, 2024 @ 1:33pm
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