Ultimate weapons, should be a limit of 1.

[Zepulchure]

So I am still only just starting out, and I played a bit in a beta a long time ago. But having looked at available items I am slightly concerned.

Ultimate weapons specifically. There is no reason not to have 3 equipped at all times (when you get them at least) which makes all other weapon choices obsolete.. and since there are typically 2-3+ that directly works with your chosen character, and a bunch that are just in general good on their own to fill out something missing from your kit. All other "normal" weapons becomes less than junk worthy.

I firmly believe that being able to only equip 1 ultimate weapon at a time would make the choice much more interesting and impactful. While making other weapons worth even looking at.


As an example, I want to play Freya. There are 2 weapons I can remember that directly works with her kit. An AR (Fallen Hope) and an SMG (python). Mixed with the LMG (Enduring Legacy) that also synergize with her kit due to it triggering on effects (toxic in this case)
So those are my only true weapon options, and everything else is just a placeholder until I get those 3. (For optimal choices at least) As an extra note, all 3 of those use the generic type of ammo, so again, more "boring" lack of actual choice

However if I could only choose 2, I suddenly have much more to consider, and having options just simply make a game better..

Sorry for the wall, got a bit further into ranting that originally thought

[Zepulchure]

yesterday původně napsal:

This is an area that game makers deserve to do well, but no one has ever done well. I don't know of any game that doesn't have junk weapons in it.

I completely agree with you there! However this game in particular has chosen the "easy" and (in my opinion) worst direction for it.

I'm not saying my opinion is correct compared to others tho! Just wanted to share it, but I forgot, it's the internet, you are either right or wrong, no space for difference in opinions xD

[Djozar]

Zepulchure původně napsal:

Djozar původně napsal:

I firmly believe if you dont want to equip 3 unique weapons then don't. I'll play how I want to play and you won't make those decisions for me. How about that belief?

Which is a completely fair way of looking at it, but it is just not that simple..

Yes, I am most likely not going to equip all 3, but that just means I'm nerfing myself. Again, what is the point of all the other weapons

No... it really IS that simple. VERY simple. You're trying to have control over something you'll never have control of. Thankfully!

[Maddrox_gokudera]

As far as I know there isn't any PVP in this game and it's also no destiny. So I don't see the point of being locked to a single Ultimate weapon. You would still need to raise other weapon's Proficiency to get account XP anyway. So Ultimate weapons are for intense fights while the others are for farming.

[OfficialDelcos]

Zepulchure původně napsal:

People are not understanding (or I'm bad at explaining, which is just as good an explanation)

I don't want this game to be Destiny, which is something people seem to think for some reason??

I just don't get why we have multiple "normal" weapons if the only ones that are worth getting are ultimate. Then just make 1 generic of each type instead of multiple. Since there is no point in getting or investing into them after you get ultimate weapons.

Until you get the ultimates, you need to grind using the non-ultimates. So there's a point to them. Lower rarity items don't always -need- to be useful, it may seem weird since they're purple, which a lot of people nowadays equate to Epic, but it's only Rare in this game, which is usually blue elsewhere, they're likely -meant- to be throwaway temp weapons.

[Zepulchure]

Maddrox_gokudera původně napsal:

As far as I know there isn't any PVP in this game and it's also no destiny. So I don't see the point of being locked to a single Ultimate weapon. You would still need to raise other weapon's Proficiency to get account XP anyway. So Ultimate weapons are for intense fights while the others are for farming.

Never said I wanted PvP. Or for it to be Destiny?

Personally I hate the crucible and most forms of PvP in games, just not interesting to me.

But why would you use worse weapons for farming?

[LeFrenchie]

Are all the legen weapons best for all mobs?
i have a few already made and i only use 1 because of the mods are so good on it.
maybe i dont get somethings, but the epic im using does way more damage.

[Zepulchure]

OfficialDelcos původně napsal:

Until you get the ultimates, you need to grind using the non-ultimates. So there's a point to them. Lower rarity items don't always -need- to be useful, it may seem weird since they're purple, which a lot of people nowadays equate to Epic, but it's only Rare in this game, which is usually blue elsewhere, they're likely -meant- to be throwaway temp weapons.

But why even have rarities?

Why have multiple versions of the same type of weapon.

Once you get ultimates they don't matter.

This is not a problem in this game alone (as someone else also mentioned) but a general game problem, this game is just extreme in that aspect. (Imo)

[Maddrox_gokudera]

Zepulchure původně napsal:

Never said I wanted PvP. Or for it to be Destiny?

Personally I hate the crucible and most forms of PvP in games, just not interesting to me.

But why would you use worse weapons for farming?

The only reason a single legendary weapon is allowed to be equipped in Destiny is because of PVP. I know countless Destiny players who would at the drop of a hat be decked out in all legendary equipment if they could. There isn't a single reason to be forced into a single Ultimate weapon. If you want to handicap yourself. So be it. But don't preach to others to do the same.
As for the worse weapons part. Account EXP. You only get it from first time finishing missions, Levels on Descendants, and proficiency on weapons. You are not tripping over Ultimate weapons so your main source is the lesser weapons.

[Todesklinge]

Remove ultimate and make every weapon playable, with each pros and cons!

[Serah]

Always disliked the 1 Exotic Weapon Cap in Destiny 2, there are so many Exotics now but only can use one is Stoopid imo

[OldSnake]

Zepulchure původně napsal:

So I am still only just starting out, and I played a bit in a beta a long time ago. But having looked at available items I am slightly concerned.

Ultimate weapons specifically. There is no reason not to have 3 equipped at all times (when you get them at least) which makes all other weapon choices obsolete.. and since there are typically 2-3+ that directly works with your chosen character, and a bunch that are just in general good on their own to fill out something missing from your kit. All other "normal" weapons becomes less than junk worthy.

I firmly believe that being able to only equip 1 ultimate weapon at a time would make the choice much more interesting and impactful. While making other weapons worth even looking at.


As an example, I want to play Freya. There are 2 weapons I can remember that directly works with her kit. An AR (Fallen Hope) and an SMG (python). Mixed with the LMG (Enduring Legacy) that also synergize with her kit due to it triggering on effects (toxic in this case)
So those are my only true weapon options, and everything else is just a placeholder until I get those 3. (For optimal choices at least) As an extra note, all 3 of those use the generic type of ammo, so again, more "boring" lack of actual choice

However if I could only choose 2, I suddenly have much more to consider, and having options just simply make a game better..

Sorry for the wall, got a bit further into ranting that originally thought

Go play Destiny if you want sh!t like that.

[hydra]

Why junk weapons? Simple. Mastery rank grind

[Lord Tenebra V]

howmany hands you have to shoot?
its ever 1 weapons on you hands anyway so...
maybe the unique bonus works only on what weapon fire. and before you have 3 weapons its harcore end game. nonsense to limit it. "you dont like have 3 golds frame square weapon on your slot dont equip it easy.

[Zepulchure]

People keep saying the same thing

"If you don't want 3, don't use 3"

That is (still) not the point.. but not gonna waste time trying to explain the same thing again and again.

[Dyoku]

You are comparing the weapon system too much with Destiny, when you should be comparing it with Warframe, each weapon have its own proficency level that helps you lvl up the mastery rank, doesn't matter how many legendarys you can equip, the ppl will use the other weapons down the line because they will want to max the mastery rank (just like Warframe), doesnt matter what is or will be the meta, even if they add junk weapons in the future, the ppl will use those weapons to max the mastery rank.