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Zepulchure Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:22am
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Ultimate weapons, should be a limit of 1.
So I am still only just starting out, and I played a bit in a beta a long time ago. But having looked at available items I am slightly concerned.

Ultimate weapons specifically. There is no reason not to have 3 equipped at all times (when you get them at least) which makes all other weapon choices obsolete.. and since there are typically 2-3+ that directly works with your chosen character, and a bunch that are just in general good on their own to fill out something missing from your kit. All other "normal" weapons becomes less than junk worthy.

I firmly believe that being able to only equip 1 ultimate weapon at a time would make the choice much more interesting and impactful. While making other weapons worth even looking at.


As an example, I want to play Freya. There are 2 weapons I can remember that directly works with her kit. An AR (Fallen Hope) and an SMG (python). Mixed with the LMG (Enduring Legacy) that also synergize with her kit due to it triggering on effects (toxic in this case)
So those are my only true weapon options, and everything else is just a placeholder until I get those 3. (For optimal choices at least) As an extra note, all 3 of those use the generic type of ammo, so again, more "boring" lack of actual choice

However if I could only choose 2, I suddenly have much more to consider, and having options just simply make a game better..

Sorry for the wall, got a bit further into ranting that originally thought
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ele Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:26am 
No, that's one of the reasons Destiny 2 failed so badly.
Zepulchure Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by ele:
No, that's one of the reasons Destiny 2 failed so badly.
Strongly disagree on that one.
I have played Destiny since curse of Osiris (not as long as others, I know) but if we could equip 3 exotic weapons, it would be the same problem, what is the point of non exotic/ultimate weapons outside of leveling and as placeholders
yep cat Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:29am 
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I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for u tho. Or sorry that happened.
Djozar Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:30am 
I firmly believe if you dont want to equip 3 unique weapons then don't. I'll play how I want to play and you won't make those decisions for me. How about that belief?
Zepulchure Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by Djozar:
I firmly believe if you dont want to equip 3 unique weapons then don't. I'll play how I want to play and you won't make those decisions for me. How about that belief?
Which is a completely fair way of looking at it, but it is just not that simple..

Yes, I am most likely not going to equip all 3, but that just means I'm nerfing myself. Again, what is the point of all the other weapons
robotech_master Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:33am 
You won't need to run 3+legendarys until well into the end game. Maxed out thunder cage will carry you far. I personally love the heros scar and it pains me that i won't be able to use it in the end game, but thats life. All those legendary exist so you can have 1. grinding targets/money target and 2. So you can match every damage type, char skill set to the void bosses to get every edge for dps.
Minty Freshness Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:33am 
this isnt destiny 2. we dont need that.
Videl Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:34am 
Just go back to Destiny 2 and enjoy one weapon if you like it so much. We gonna be fine here.
Last edited by Videl; Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:34am
lostsoul9999 Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:34am 
horrible idea, this isn't destiny literally just don't use more then 1 then lol
m99noble Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by Zepulchure:
Originally posted by ele:
No, that's one of the reasons Destiny 2 failed so badly.
Strongly disagree on that one.
I have played Destiny since curse of Osiris (not as long as others, I know) but if we could equip 3 exotic weapons, it would be the same problem, what is the point of non exotic/ultimate weapons outside of leveling and as placeholders

This game: junk = materials
Destiny: junk legendaries = legendary shards

In destiny of all the legendary weapons, there are Best in Slot for each weapon type and fire rating class making others obsolete anyway. Why would i use fate bringer or my luna over my perfected adepted range austringer with the scales? All 3 are 140s Austringer is just better.
Zepulchure Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:38am 
People are not understanding (or I'm bad at explaining, which is just as good an explanation)

I don't want this game to be Destiny, which is something people seem to think for some reason??

I just don't get why we have multiple "normal" weapons if the only ones that are worth getting are ultimate. Then just make 1 generic of each type instead of multiple. Since there is no point in getting or investing into them after you get ultimate weapons.
Approaching Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:41am 
This is an area that game makers deserve to do well, but no one has ever done well. I don't know of any game that doesn't have junk weapons in it.:steamfacepalm:
robotech_master Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:41am 
Originally posted by Zepulchure:
People are not understanding (or I'm bad at explaining, which is just as good an explanation)

I don't want this game to be Destiny, which is something people seem to think for some reason??

I just don't get why we have multiple "normal" weapons if the only ones that are worth getting are ultimate. Then just make 1 generic of each type instead of multiple. Since there is no point in getting or investing into them after you get ultimate weapons.
They may change this in future but the throw away weapons are just that throw away weapons. Its sad but thats by design. ultimate are always going to out perform vs rare/blue grade weapons. Thats even assuming that are bad matched to the char.
Zepulchure Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:42am 
Originally posted by m99noble:

This game: junk = materials
Destiny: junk legendaries = legendary shards

In destiny of all the legendary weapons, there are Best in Slot for each weapon type and fire rating class making others obsolete anyway. Why would i use fate bringer or my luna over my perfected adepted range austringer with the scales? All 3 are 140s Austringer is just better.

Multiple reasons.. damage type, perks, combinations, there are generalist versions of guns and some that works better with specific subclasses, austringer is a mediocre gun at best outside of the crucible, multiple 140's are objectively better dependant on class and build.
ICZiman Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Djozar:
I firmly believe if you dont want to equip 3 unique weapons then don't. I'll play how I want to play and you won't make those decisions for me. How about that belief?
Bcoz people always choose the path of least resistance. Like, a lot, i mean A FKING LOT of people, may be half of them rofl, will play with god mod enabled if you let them. Thats how they want to play it. Shuda let them have it huh? I mean, how dare someone to make decisions for them!

Oh wait they actualy not playn solo game, so I DO WHAT I WANT DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO is ♥♥♥♥ mentality actualy. And right now we have here game where guns rarity system suck kok and most guns just placeholders and exp fodder. Should we let someyou play game with 5 guns in it CoZ yOu WaNt It So, or should we ask devs to redevelop theyr vision of game design?
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Date Posted: Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:22am
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