So how bad is it actually?

[Sel Und Irae]

People memeing or just another game by a known bad developer.

Edit;

"I should rephrase, Think it'll be still around / relevant in a month or so? Am trying to binge FFXIV Dawntrail get everything to 100 and all my crafting recipes checked off.

Or crash and burn by then?

[keysy]

imagine warframe + typical korean mmo monetization.

[Cha0ticInsanity]

Game is awesome when it isn't crashing during the same boss over and over. Cash shop steer clear from.

[JOHN]

It is bad, because of the company mentality, it will show in the game design. Gameplay is fun, but it is still tailored to make you spend. If you value your time, play something else. It is not that this game is that special. It has guns and titties. It is not really a good choice alone to play the game.

[TimsGamingDen]

I played solo until the first level 10 boss, and i have been able to play without big issues.
No crashes, just lag when running around in the Albion hub.
Geforce now ultimate - ultra details - 1440p - +-80 fps but sometimes it dropped to around 30 fps when a lot of enemies on screen.

But i like the game, if icompared to warframe i prefer this one.

[Rogue]

It has variety and scope while game is fun.

A few people are just not happy with the monetization, performance issue related to their borked PC or crazy identity politics.

There are 200k peak concurrent players after all...

[SoupDumplings]

Decent game, nothing revolutionary but it looks nice and its free.

[Koles]

The game is okay, but monetisation is not a meme.

For reference, getting ultimate characters would take around 4000h. Yes. 4000h (160 days).

Obviously that's, no pun intended, "ultimate" character. But then keep in mind that certain content is essentially gated from you with paying, or being insane.

The regular descendands aren't as bad, but the grind is still high, like 10s and 100s of hours.

And then all crafting is time gated. Even if you need to just merge your weapons you need to wait for mats to be made.

There are also tons of things that boosts drop rates and so on, so again, it kinda incentivizes you to pay or grind way, way more.

I would say just try it out if you don't mind wasting some of the time. The game can be decently fun in the beginning, because you fight bunch of bosses for the first time and getting new characters fast due to story.

I personally can't imagine playing past once I kill all bosses (or I might even drop it bafore that, since so far it seems all of them have almost identical mechanics), since there are so many looter games in the market that respect your time more and per hour fun is higher. I don't think any part of this game outside of graphics is good enough to be better than competition. It's just kinda average at everything.

And when it comes to developer... Yeah... It's the publisher that's the issue. Nexon is known for predatory monetization and milking their franchises to death. Just read reviews under MapleStory to see what people think. The main problem with their published games is that it always first and foremost feels like it's designed around you buying stuff and gameplay and user experience is secondary. In fact user experience is inentionally made worse, until you pay.

[Mambius]

Its cool. But no need to fanboying over it in my opinion. People are more fan of the game because its not another SJW game

[Mambius]

Originally posted by Koles:

The game is okay, but monetisation is not a meme.

For reference, getting ultimate characters would take around 4000h. Yes. 4000h (160 days).

Obviously that's, no pun intended, "ultimate" character. But then keep in mind that certain content is essentially gated from you with paying, or being insane.

The regular descendands aren't as bad, but the grind is still high, like 10s and 100s of hours.

And then all crafting is time gated. Even if you need to just merge your weapons you need to wait for mats to be made.

There are also tons of things that boosts drop rates and so on, so again, it kinda incentivizes you to pay or grind way, way more.

I would say just try it out if you don't mind wasting some of the time. The game can be decently fun in the beginning, because you fight bunch of bosses for the first time and getting new characters fast due to story.

I personally can't imagine playing past once I kill all bosses (or I might even drop it bafore that, since so far it seems all of them have almost identical mechanics), since there are so many looter games in the market that respect your time more and per hour fun is higher. I don't think any part of this game outside of graphics is good enough to be better than competition. It's just kinda average at everything.

And when it comes to developer... Yeah... It's the publisher that's the issue. Nexon is known for predatory monetization and milking their franchises to death. Just read reviews under MapleStory to see what people think. The main problem with their published games is that it always first and foremost feels like it's designed around you buying stuff and gameplay and user experience is secondary. In fact user experience is inentionally made worse, until you pay.

And you only have 80 days left XD

[Koles]

Originally posted by Kaggy:

games great imo, but im a warframe fan and its like that

cash shop is..meh, its all earnable for free, like warframe

its also all pve so anyone else paying to get ahead isnt hurting you, in fact they may carry you through ♥♥♥♥ lol

It's one of those things where it's "technically" earnable, but if you crunch the math some of the things are pretty bad. As in THOUSANDS of hours of grind bad.

So I would say some things are realistically earnable in game, but portion is locked under insane grind that's not really realistic.

[DukeFavre]

Originally posted by Sel Und Irae:

People memeing or just another game by a known bad developer.

GENERIC.

It has the destiny 2 zones where you group up with other players online and do the same quest: defend a control point from waves of enemies, loot enemies that drop something and deliver to point A, kill waves of enemies, kill a boss that has a force field so you have to repeat the same process 3 times before you can actualy kill it. Then get a cutscene, repeat. New zone, do 3-4 quest, kill a boss, cutscene. repeat.

Some of the best bosses (with weak spots) are lock in mission you can do in Albion. I did not care.

+ Bunny can be unlock pretty fast. (that's a good thing)

I never look at my weapons. I only equip the ones that have the best damage and turn the others into materials.

SO FAR....... It's BORING AS *******.

You would think having DESTINY 2, THE DIVISON and WARFRAME, they would do something different, but no.

I will play a little longer, but doesn't look good.

PS: make sure when you launch the game to go make yourself a coffe or snack, because the loading times are as bad as Anthem. *God forgive me for naming that horrible game*.

[:bestgamerchina#1最好的中國]

It will for sure drop at least 50% of its playerbase in a month. Simply becouse all the ultimate skins are barred behind days/weeks of hardcore grind

[Nefarious]

If you want to play a horribly optimized game that randomly crashes that's been this way since beta, a game that has a zzz story and the worst sound design, pay to skip the whole point of the game cash shop then this soulless attempt at a game might be for you.

[DeDeath]

Delete the game - it's a donation dump. Such games have no right to exist. Let them make good games without donations for honest money! A fair price, like the BG3(Larian) and HL2(Arrowhead) - /Sony - die /without a premium. Everything else is a hoax. The project is doomed to fail)

[GOJIRA]

It's sort of a mix between Warframe and Destiny, but not as fleshed out as either of them on aspects that makes them stand out.

The game is fun to play though, trying out new characters etc.

Not entirely sure how /grindy/ it is regarding currency as of right now.

You can purchase components to unlock/research a new character. These are pretty expensive (early on?) and then if you have all components you can research the character for like 600K-ish credits.

The game has a lot of potentional, but as far as I can tell early game seems to be unbalanced regarding bosses and TTK in general, but there are fun missions/gamemodes/dungeons.

I personally like the horde/survival mode where you protect a device from being destroyed in waves and every 10 waves you get rewards and the option to keep going.

Characters I've unlocked so far seem to play vastly different from each other and I think late-end game is heavily focused on utilizing each playstyle, character, weapon type and all the modifications to min-max a certain playstyle.

It basically has mods similar to Warframe, but for each weapon type and character can be outfitted with unique components that also change the stats and playstyle fo a character itself.

Cash shop is basically just a Battlepass + being able to purchase components for characters immediately.