Game causing system restart

[COYG]

First launch I was able to play for 5 mins then my system restarted automatically, 2nd launch system restarted at anti cheat screen, 3rd launch system restarted at the main menu. My system is more than capable of running this game at ultra settings native 1080p (ryzen 5700x, rtx 3060 12gb, 32gb ram), my cpu & gpu are not overheating. No other game is causing my system to restart so clearly the issue is with The First Descendant.

[◬ ☥ 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕜 ☥ ◬]

Escrito originalmente por germality:

Escrito originalmente por ◬ ☥ 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕜 ☥ ◬:

Seems pretty realistic to me. Lets boil it down:
Your pc should not turn off by itself without you choosing to turn it off.
That's a fact. What's stupid or nonsense about it? Trick question, nothing is.

That would be poorly optimized game...

I don't know if you understood the post, what that guy was saying is it SHOULD NOT happen because it WOULD be the games fault. It isn't the games fault the guys PSU is garbage he probably got scammed from a prebuilt unfortunately. Many such cases.

Escrito originalmente por Aurummorituri:

Escrito originalmente por MrHustler:

why would you avoid updating your bios that's the real question if you're not going to take people's advice that trying to help you don't waste your time and my time! If you don't believe me keep on wasting your time! Have fun and a good night!

Why would you suggest updating your BIOS for a fricking game? That's not how that works. BIOS updates are to be AVOIDED unless there is a significant update required due to the risk of bricking the system. A BIOS update does NOTHING for software unless there are unstable voltage/clock issues with a specific board vendor. You certainly were wasting time. Buh bye.

I don't think you understand what you're talking about. It's been proven many times in this discussion forum alone that people updating their bios solved their issues. Obviously it doesnt solve every issue but pretending its some arcane technology you should never touch is goofy. I don't know why you think a bios is only responsible for voltage or clock regulation. You know thats a feature of a bios and not the bios, right?

Updates to bios also improve other things such as SECURITY FEATURES, HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY, BUG FIXES, AND PERFORMANCE OPTIMIZATIONS


It's amusing how sassy you are when you're hilariously incredibly wrong. Why is that?

[Irot Noot]

Escrito originalmente por germality:

Escrito originalmente por ◬ ☥ 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕜 ☥ ◬:

Seems pretty realistic to me. Lets boil it down:
Your pc should not turn off by itself without you choosing to turn it off.
That's a fact. What's stupid or nonsense about it? Trick question, nothing is.

That would be poorly optimized game...

A poorly optimized game should not ever shut your pc off or reboot it. If you are living with a PC acting like that, you dont have to. Fix your computer.

[Kaezeribato]

Escrito originalmente por ◬ ☥ 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕜 ☥ ◬:

It's amusing how sassy you are when you're hilariously incredibly wrong. Why is that?

Dunning Kruger effect, as simple as that.
Also, when they say things like "i'm an engineer!" or "i've been into PC for TEN THOUSAND YEAR so i know better than the rest of the world!" we should just make fun of them and not even try to help them, because they dont want help they just want to rage.

[Watercooled RTX4090]

classic Fisherprice Cow Mooh Mooh Laptop with a Meow Meow GPU. No Problems. unless i start any game that is not from Riot. Stick to Minecraft buddy. Its probably your CPU because this game eats CPUs for breakfast. You can download all kinds of stress tests but who am i with my 5k watercooled Alien tentacle PC

[Regulist]

Escrito originalmente por COYG:

First launch I was able to play for 5 mins then my system restarted automatically, 2nd launch system restarted at anti cheat screen, 3rd launch system restarted at the main menu. My system is more than capable of running this game at ultra settings native 1080p (ryzen 5700x, rtx 3060 12gb, 32gb ram), my cpu & gpu are not overheating. No other game is causing my system to restart so clearly the issue is with The First Descendant.

Running game on 7900X and RTX 4080, and after playing ~1 hour game crashes, black screen on PC, no video signal, and reboot PC in 10 seconds of waiting.
One strange thing: temperature monitors show GPU ~55-60 during game, but if I touch waterblock radiator it feels much hotter, only fr GPU, other components are cold

Is this UE5 optimisation problem???

[Aurummorituri]

Escrito originalmente por ◬ ☥ 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕜 ☥ ◬:

Escrito originalmente por germality:

That would be poorly optimized game...

I don't know if you understood the post, what that guy was saying is it SHOULD NOT happen because it WOULD be the games fault. It isn't the games fault the guys PSU is garbage he probably got scammed from a prebuilt unfortunately. Many such cases.

Escrito originalmente por Aurummorituri:

Why would you suggest updating your BIOS for a fricking game? That's not how that works. BIOS updates are to be AVOIDED unless there is a significant update required due to the risk of bricking the system. A BIOS update does NOTHING for software unless there are unstable voltage/clock issues with a specific board vendor. You certainly were wasting time. Buh bye.

I don't think you understand what you're talking about. It's been proven many times in this discussion forum alone that people updating their bios solved their issues. Obviously it doesnt solve every issue but pretending its some arcane technology you should never touch is goofy. I don't know why you think a bios is only responsible for voltage or clock regulation. You know thats a feature of a bios and not the bios, right?

Updates to bios also improve other things such as SECURITY FEATURES, HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY, BUG FIXES, AND PERFORMANCE OPTIMIZATIONS


It's amusing how sassy you are when you're hilariously incredibly wrong. Why is that?

It's amusing how sassy you are when you're hilariously ignorant. I'm an IT Specialist. The last thing I do is go around telling people to update their BIOS because a singular piece of software is behaving badly. Again, you do NOT just go trying to update your BIOS because ONE piece of software has issues. Security features are 99% in the OS, hardware compatibility is moot because his CPU is running just fine, bug fixes are 100% OS and not related to the BIOS at all, and the last one is only pertinent with a new platform which the OP is not on. Grow up and stop pretending you know how things work.

[arae1967]

Third time uninstalling the first descendant from my PC removed everything related still comes up with M1 Error yes disabled AVG yes done a file verification yes done a driver check . And still comes up with M1 error getting very pist off with this now and only reply is another user ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at another one with zero fix as well as a few YouTube videos from people who tell you to do the basic check which I have done. I noticed some other people having this issue PS been playing it since launch then paid for battle pass played game next day M1 error game already running is all I get. " OK UNINSTALL GAME FIXED IT DELETE EVERYTHING to do with the first descendant folder In steam folder check for NIXON folder out of steam to under user them after you UNINSTALL GAME. THEN MANUALLY DELETE FOLDER FOR NIXON & THE FIRST DESCENDANT THEN CHECK nothing left of it cause uninstall does NOT get rid of it all "., I used a reg cleaner before I installed the game again. I used CC cleaner I know dodgy but all I had. Then install game should be good to go working so far fingers crossed.

[Irot Noot]

Escrito originalmente por arae1967:

Third time uninstalling the first descendant from my PC removed everything related still comes up with M1 Error yes disabled AVG yes done a file verification yes done a driver check . And still comes up with M1 error getting very pist off with this now and only reply is another user ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at another one with zero fix as well as a few YouTube videos from people who tell you to do the basic check which I have done. I noticed some other people having this issue PS been playing it since launch then paid for battle pass played game next day M1 error game already running is all I get.

Maybe instead of trying to Hijack someone elses thread that has an entirely different issue than you, you might get better traction with your own thread. That way you can explain what your issue is without trying to interject in between everyone working to help the OP. You posted a completely different issue than the OP is having. The M1 error is not a hard system crash issue, its more likely a corrupted driver issue.

That said, I did find this video talking about Windows, M1 error and The Last Decedent. Maybe this will help you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ2EU4ydVgQ

[ZooL]

OP, you just need to face the hard truth that your hardware (most likely PSU) is defective or underpowered. You can run as much benchmarks as you want and say its fine but this game uses a lot of resources if it can so it will do several things at once:
max out your GPU not only in maxing out the raw computing units but also the ray tracing units and the tensor cores all at once. It will also try to max out the CPU and the ram as well as pull from your SSD with max speed because of active directory.

So if you want to be really sure try running CPU, GPU, RAM and SSD stress tests all at once. i am almost certain your system will reboot after doing that for 30 min, as well.

[A Suspicious Crayon]

Escrito originalmente por COYG:

I have already mentioned that my cpu is not oc'd and why would I update my bios for a video game? this is absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, I have been into pc gaming since 2006 and this has never happened before booooooooo

That doesn't mean it is the game, check the Event viewer for error and act accordingly.

[xrodney]

Escrito originalmente por Aurummorituri:

Escrito originalmente por MrHustler:

why would you avoid updating your bios that's the real question if you're not going to take people's advice that trying to help you don't waste your time and my time! If you don't believe me keep on wasting your time! Have fun and a good night!

Why would you suggest updating your BIOS for a fricking game? That's not how that works. BIOS updates are to be AVOIDED unless there is a significant update required due to the risk of bricking the system. A BIOS update does NOTHING for software unless there are unstable voltage/clock issues with a specific board vendor. You certainly were wasting time. Buh bye.

You dont event know how you are wrong.
5700x was released in April 2022 and if OP having 2022 bios on B450 its pretty much minimum version to support that CPU. There was huge improvment to CPU microcode and Memory support through 2022 and 2023.
He don't mention details about memory, but if using higher clock speed or 4 sticks that might be issue as well.

And B450 Tomahawk have flashback support as far as i can see, which means chance to brick it is nearly zero. If flash bios fail, it can be repeated again and again unless microcontroller on MB dies and that would brick board even without bios flash.

So flashing new bios improve CPU and memory support. trying just two sticks with basic memory clock instead of OC profile might help too. At minimum to remove this from potential issue list.

Also if same was working before does not mean it will continue to work. There might be regression going on as system ages, or even os patch can change things.

[ZooL]

Escrito originalmente por xrodney:

Escrito originalmente por Aurummorituri:

Why would you suggest updating your BIOS for a fricking game? That's not how that works. BIOS updates are to be AVOIDED unless there is a significant update required due to the risk of bricking the system. A BIOS update does NOTHING for software unless there are unstable voltage/clock issues with a specific board vendor. You certainly were wasting time. Buh bye.

You dont event know how you are wrong.
5700x was released in April 2022 and if OP having 2022 bios on B450 its pretty much minimum version to support that CPU. There was huge improvment to CPU microcode and Memory support through 2022 and 2023.
He don't mention details about memory, but if using higher clock speed or 4 sticks that might be issue as well.

And B450 Tomahawk have flashback support as far as i can see, which means chance to brick it is nearly zero. If flash bios fail, it can be repeated again and again unless microcontroller on MB dies and that would brick board even without bios flash.

So flashing new bios improve CPU and memory support. trying just two sticks with basic memory clock instead of OC profile might help too. At minimum to remove this from potential issue list.

Also if same was working before does not mean it will continue to work. There might be regression going on as system ages, or even os patch can change things.

thats true, the AMD boards got lots of stability improvements over the years. it took them over 1 year of updates until i finally could run my 4 ram sticks at the full speed in a stable way.

[COYG]

Escrito originalmente por ZooL:

OP, you just need to face the hard truth that your hardware (most likely PSU) is defective or underpowered. You can run as much benchmarks as you want and say its fine but this game uses a lot of resources if it can so it will do several things at once:
max out your GPU not only in maxing out the raw computing units but also the ray tracing units and the tensor cores all at once. It will also try to max out the CPU and the ram as well as pull from your SSD with max speed because of active directory.

So if you want to be really sure try running CPU, GPU, RAM and SSD stress tests all at once. i am almost certain your system will reboot after doing that for 30 min, as well.

There is no hard truth this game is bugged now I am gonna block and report you.

[COYG]

Escrito originalmente por Watercooled RTX4090:

classic Fisherprice Cow Mooh Mooh Laptop with a Meow Meow GPU. No Problems. unless i start any game that is not from Riot. Stick to Minecraft buddy. Its probably your CPU because this game eats CPUs for breakfast. You can download all kinds of stress tests but who am i with my 5k watercooled Alien tentacle PC

yah right my cpu ok you can f off now.

[Cyberdev]

This just happened to me and yes I do have a OC'd my PC but that isn't the issue here because my PC is A.I OC witch will prevent it from reaching instability levels and it's not my PSU because it's a 1000W PSU from Asus and it's under 5.months old