4090 Framegen Grayed out

[The Lightning Phoenix]

So the game is running absolutely terribly for me on a 4090 with a i7 13700k even with DLSS set to Ultra Performance and Graphics to low and mouse polling rate down to 150. I see people suggesting turning out Frame Gen but it is grayed out for me and I can't figure out how to get it to not be

[PølseJuice]

Originally posted by Wehzy:

Originally posted by geologyrox:

4070 super user here, frame gen option is also grayed out (unavailable) for me. Reinstalled my graphics drivers and still nothing. Anyone figure this out?

Framegen only works with FSR.

That's a blatant lie right there.
I'm on dlss quality, with fg working just fine :)

https://imgur.com/a/3Sk2DJi

[PølseJuice]

Originally posted by 𝕸𝖆𝖊𝖘𝖙𝖗𝖔:

Originally posted by Valhalla Awaits:

Hey there, 4090 and 7800x3d user here playing at 5k (4k+ ultrawide), the game runs smooth as butter for me at 120-165fps, so it's not your hardware. Your experiencing one of the compatibility issues many have. Keep digging for better drivers, windows updates, maybe even a fresh OS install, or going back to stock overclocking settings, etc. Something else is causing the problem.

PS: Oh and I'm max EVERYTHING settings, except not using raytracing (it doesn't look any better than baked shaders in this game in my opinion) and NOT using DLSS of any kind. (The game looks worse with it, the DLSS optimization for the game sucks.)

Turning OFF Ray Tracing is the another level.. Of course you can get 120-160 Fps without RT if He Turn off RT he will get same fps as you.

There is no way in hell you are pulling those numbers at that resolution without an upscalers involved.

Do post a picture/video as proof, as else you are just straight blowing smoke xD


Addendum. same rig as yours, and getting around 80-100 fps tops with upscalers and dlss disabled at 1440p UW

[PølseJuice]

Originally posted by ShamelessDisplay:

Hello! For me, personally, one thing I've learned is "NEVER TRUST A GAME'S FSR, DLSS, etc", because for me, it never works. What I do (I run an AMD GPU) is go into my AMD Adrenalin and use that software to upscale my graphics from 1080p to 4k and it just works. I've never had any problem in any game I've played, as long as I've disabled the FSR (In my case, because AMD). Use the software instead of the in-game stuff, like they recommend.

EDIT: They recommend using the in-game feature, and what I mean is, ignore that and use the software instead.

Using fsr ingame and Adrenalin is 2 different things dude...

[phosTR]

Unreal Slop

[Grimzy]

if Framegen is greyed out for you try:

1. Check if you have the nvngx_dlssg file in your game folder.
2. MAke sure you have the one that comes with the game, if you manually update it to the newest the game will not recognize it.
3. Check if you have dlss turned on (some games only allow framegen in conjunction with dlss, not dlaa)
4. Verify game files and try again.

Also, just to put it out there, Nvidia framegen only works on 40XX series cards.

[PølseJuice]

Originally posted by phosTR:

Unreal Slop

More like majority of people got budget pc's expecting to play a game that uses the most recent tech....

[PølseJuice]

Originally posted by ShamelessDisplay:

Originally posted by PølseJuice:

Using fsr ingame and Adrenalin is 2 different things dude...

That's what I meant. Sorry for the confusion. Allow me to start over.

Turn off any and all in-game "Extra Options" (Eg. FSR, DLSS, etc). Then, in your own personal software on your computer for your GPU, turn on your "Resolution Enhancement Software". For example, mine is called "Radeon Super Resolution" because I have an AMD GPU. If you have a NVidia software tool that does the same, use that instead of the in-game option.

I have NEVER heard about someone going that route xD you are actually being counter intuitive in that regard.

[Im on EQOA Sandstorm Toons Below]

Originally posted by yourgolden:

I have a 4090 I can tell you that frame gen is junk so im not using it. I turned ray tracing to high instead of ultra and i dont use ray reconstruction its kind of bugging as well. also I use dlss quality I get over 120 frames that way. maybe try DDU and then reinstall drivers. its a safe program. Just google DDU

But if they're not careful, since it involves reboots and safemodes, they could select the wrong cleaning option and wind up with a blackscreen on reboot lol having to go into recovery. They'll then scream about that and probably blame it on you lol.

Remember these days everybody has 10-15 years of youtubes, dumbphones and now tiktoks for even shorter attention spans. Even when they read the instructions over and over, a lot of folk these days just can't concentrate enough to fully retain or comprehend it the first 2 or 3 times they read sometimes. I know it sounds funny and like an exaggeration but I hate to say it's true with plenty of people currently.

[Faiyez]

Originally posted by PølseJuice:

Originally posted by ShamelessDisplay:

That's what I meant. Sorry for the confusion. Allow me to start over.

Turn off any and all in-game "Extra Options" (Eg. FSR, DLSS, etc). Then, in your own personal software on your computer for your GPU, turn on your "Resolution Enhancement Software". For example, mine is called "Radeon Super Resolution" because I have an AMD GPU. If you have a NVidia software tool that does the same, use that instead of the in-game option.

I have NEVER heard about someone going that route xD you are actually being counter intuitive in that regard.

It's straight up bad advice. Especially for actual Nvidia user.

[phosTR]

Originally posted by PølseJuice:

Originally posted by phosTR:

Unreal Slop

More like majority of people got budget pc's expecting to play a game that uses the most recent tech....

yeah because all these recent Unreal games running like @ss is totally the players PC that is to blame

[PølseJuice]

Originally posted by ShamelessDisplay:

Originally posted by PølseJuice:

I have NEVER heard about someone going that route xD you are actually being counter intuitive in that regard.

In what respect? The OP mentioned that he was running DLSS in the game settings, and I recommended him to turn it off, and use his own software enhancement. I'm not being insincere when I recommended him using an outside tool to improve his performance instead of the in-game tool. It helped me with my FPS/Resolution problems, I simply offered him an alternative.

Not gonna lie, in my haste to respond to some other comments, i skipped the part where you were given a sound alternative for the people not seeing any impact from ingame settings.

So that one is on me, my apologies

[PølseJuice]

Originally posted by phosTR:

Originally posted by PølseJuice:

More like majority of people got budget pc's expecting to play a game that uses the most recent tech....

yeah because all these recent Unreal games running like @ss is totally the players PC that is to blame

Both yes and no.

[Im on EQOA Sandstorm Toons Below]

Originally posted by ShamelessDisplay:

Originally posted by PølseJuice:

I have NEVER heard about someone going that route xD you are actually being counter intuitive in that regard.

In what respect? The OP mentioned that he was running DLSS in the game settings, and I recommended him to turn it off, and use his own software enhancement. I'm not being insincere when I recommended him using an outside tool to improve his performance instead of the in-game tool. It helped me with my FPS/Resolution problems, I simply offered him an alternative.

He may be referring to an option in Geforce experience under the settings, General Tab. The Image Scaling option. You can have it set to something like 85% and not notice it usually unless you hug the screen. You can also use DLSS inside of the games without it harming that. Turning off the DLSS/frame options and then enabling them again after resolution and settings changes also can stop weird stutters or sub par frame sticking if it's happening after fumbling with many settings.

The game might have a pipeline issue introduced between the last beta I played and the other day since ps5 ran great in performance mode during a beta. But on pc i can see it uses a lot of memory, I think on console it's Constantly swapping out memory and that makes it crash or go through the moments of fluid gameplay and then the almost sub20fps laggy moments where it's swapping a lot out in memory probably. Once I could see how much it was using on the pc, I was like no wonder the sony kept crashing the game.

[Faiyez]

Originally posted by phosTR:

Originally posted by PølseJuice:

More like majority of people got budget pc's expecting to play a game that uses the most recent tech....

yeah because all these recent Unreal games running like @ss is totally the players PC that is to blame

It totally is.

People get upset when their 2000 series cards don't give amazing RT performance.

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by Faiyez:

Originally posted by phosTR:

yeah because all these recent Unreal games running like @ss is totally the players PC that is to blame

It totally is.

People get upset when their 2000 series cards don't give amazing RT performance.

Even $2000 4090s struggle with the latest UE5 games because the games become heavily CPU bound, and even the highest end CPUs can't keep up.

UE5 is just garbage.