This is Warframe but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lmao.

[MidusTheAvengingSon]

All the anti-woke crowd can create is worse versions of our art, it's kinda embarrassing.

I'll go enjoy playing a real game with genuine artistic soul, you guys enjoy the knock-off with (somehow) less ass.

[zeroburrito]

it's a worse version of destiny 2, not warframe.

[youmustbebornagain777]

Publicado originalmente por MidusTheAvengingSon:

Publicado originalmente por CaptainPOCK:

Warframe isn't exactly unique in that regard. Repetitive mission systems where you do certain objectives have been done by other games before. The aesthetic looks more like Destiny 2 if you ask me. But I have never played Destiny 2 to really properly judge that.

That's true, but when you steal the mechanics/gameplay of a game and its aesthetic? It's a knockoff.

Also, not really. Destiny 2 looks like a more technologically advanced version of Crysis. This looks more like Warframe.

Destiny is horrible for PVE only players that hate Raids. Enough content for 1 day, then it's a borefest.

[Manxome]

how sad is your life OP.. trying to create derision and drama where there is none to be had.. go play your ghey warframe and have fun. no one needs you here.

[Democracy Officer 0311]

This game def ripped off warframe in alot of ways.. The build customization for your character and weapons ..the mastery rank system.. Hell even the skill preview layout is a copy of warframes skill preview layout..That being said.. I'm kinda loving this game.

[Andi]

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Publicado originalmente por psnjungle:

All the woke folks can do is ♥♥♥♥ up already established IPs. And insert ugly, fat or gays where the heroes supposed to go.

Yes, it's not like woke game are massively beloved, contending for GOTY, or often winning since the start lmao. (Baldur's Gate 3, Bioshock, Titanfall, Cyberpunk 2077, Alan Wake 2, every Kojima game,,, etc)

You guys can't create ♥♥♥♥. It's why your people love AI art.

This has nothing to do with what the creators want or what the players want. It has everything to do with corporate higher ups and meeting ESG requirements to get finance from companies like blackrock and sweetbaby. extorting game companies to 'correct' the politics in their games.

[ChuckDM]

Publicado originalmente por MidusTheAvengingSon:

Publicado originalmente por psnjungle:

All the woke folks can do is ♥♥♥♥ up already established IPs. And insert ugly, fat or gays where the heroes supposed to go.

Yes, it's not like woke game are massively beloved, contending for GOTY, or often winning since the start lmao. (Baldur's Gate 3, Bioshock, Titanfall, Cyberpunk 2077, Alan Wake 2, every Kojima game,,, etc)

You guys can't create ♥♥♥♥. It's why your people love AI art.

BG3: Not woke.
Bioshock: Are you referring to the anti-capitalism one or the anti-patriotism one? Neither is woke, but I'm wondering precisely which flavor of wrong you are here.
Titanfall: Never played it so won't judge but I'm not sure how "Mechwarrior with parkour" could be woke.
Cyberpunk 2077: The game has prostitution and corporate oppression, and neither are treated as inherently bad. CP2077 is, depending on how you look at it, either entirely neutral or anti-woke as hell. It's not woke either way.
Alan Wake 2: Never played it. If it's anything like Control, it's not woke either, and Control even has a female protag, but she's a normal person who is special not because she's a woman, but as a matter of pure circumstance, like spiderman. Unless AW2 is wildly different, then again, not woke.
Not going to address every Kojima game.

So your agument is "woke games are beloved, here let me list some woke games to prove it" and then you list nothing but games that aren't woke. Nice try buddy.

[Yuen]

Those complaining that Destiny 2 and Warframe are better, shoo and complain over on their forums. They won't mind hearing their game is better. You're hogging the space.

[Cosmic Milkshake]

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Publicado originalmente por psnjungle:

I can tell from how your typing that you dont actually know what woke is. None of those tittles you listed are considered woke. Except for maybe alan wake 2, and no one likes that pos anyway. None of those games you listed are New Ips either.

Woke is when the game shoves "the message" down your throats and inserts it into places that make absolutely no sense.

Woke doesn't mean that, just because theres a gay, or a black guy in the game. But if the story is all about who he's sleeping with, fighting for their "rights" or other BS than it's considered woke.

Either way, as i said, you just clearly want some attention right now. But im done explaining this to you regardless.

Said with respect.

But BG2 is one of the woke'est, most woke, woke-fests ever released.

Ignoring the bestiality, which was just vile, utterly needless, and shows what the sickos at Larian are.

Even "worth-a-buy" Mack, when getting to their "character creator," says a few words, about replacing lady, and male parts, and then coughs, and defers, so as not to say what he thinks.

It literally ticks every woke box there is. And then adds some.

Just to mention one point. You are "hit on" by same sex people constantly. in the "game" The VAST majority of people do not want this.



Oh, and sorry, but, no
"Woke," isn't when the devs, or whoever shove it down your throat.
It is when its present in the game / movie / show, whatever.
If woke is in the "product" ... Looking at you bud lite / target, batwoman, .... etc, etc.
Its Woke.

Again with respect.
This post is not aimed at you as a person.
But mainly at the definition, and presence of woke.
And at bg3 the "game" and the rampant wokeness it was.
It only sold well, because of the MASSIVE following the IP had, from decades ago.
People with rose tinted glasses, overlooking the gamut of wokeness it ran.

No hate, just fact.

One last point.
A black protagonist 5 years ago, would not have caused anyone to bat an eyelid.
It has nothing to do with black main characters.
Systemic racism, does not exist, in the western world 2024, its a creation of the far left, hollywood, main stream media, and most of big tech - (social media) aimed to target white people.

This issue started because of the tiny few, backed by the huge aforementioned platforms.
As well as the likes of sbi, and co, <(who are self confessed, and proud of it bigots.)
and the constant shoehorning of....
And just talking "gaming" here.
Almost every AAA, and even indie games "main" in the past few years, has to tick the following boxes.
black ✅
female ✅
purposefully unattractive. looks more like a man. ✅ (When, in real life, some of the most beautiful women in the world are black)
backside kicking. ✅
main characters, in 2 out 3 (or more) games released, are all of the above.
And all the white men are evil, weak, or clueless.

Again,
Problem with black protag's, M&F in some games....? = Nope.
Constant black, looks like men, hard as nails, women, protags...? = Woke,

In America where a LOT of these products are made. The demoographic of races is.
14% black.
60% white.

And people in RL just get on with it, but the "woke crowed, are determined to create a false narrative.

Its just gotten tired, and stale. and silly.

And that's why games like this one are SO refreshing, and not woke.

And F2P, or not, with almost 200k players, it shows peeps agree.


Nuff said.
Again, with respsect.

Mostly true, but it's BG3 not 2.

[Cosmic Milkshake]

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Publicado originalmente por MidusTheAvengingSon:

Yes, it's not like woke game are massively beloved, contending for GOTY, or often winning since the start lmao. (Baldur's Gate 3, Bioshock, Titanfall, Cyberpunk 2077, Alan Wake 2, every Kojima game,,, etc)

You guys can't create ♥♥♥♥. It's why your people love AI art.

BG3: Not woke.
Bioshock: Are you referring to the anti-capitalism one or the anti-patriotism one? Neither is woke, but I'm wondering precisely which flavor of wrong you are here.
Titanfall: Never played it so won't judge but I'm not sure how "Mechwarrior with parkour" could be woke.
Cyberpunk 2077: The game has prostitution and corporate oppression, and neither are treated as inherently bad. CP2077 is, depending on how you look at it, either entirely neutral or anti-woke as hell. It's not woke either way.
Alan Wake 2: Never played it. If it's anything like Control, it's not woke either, and Control even has a female protag, but she's a normal person who is special not because she's a woman, but as a matter of pure circumstance, like spiderman. Unless AW2 is wildly different, then again, not woke.
Not going to address every Kojima game.

So your agument is "woke games are beloved, here let me list some woke games to prove it" and then you list nothing but games that aren't woke. Nice try buddy.

All of those games minus Titanfall are woke.

[Akemua]

They're both mid and only good for a time killer.

[ChuckDM]

Publicado originalmente por MidusTheAvengingSon:

Publicado originalmente por DickPays:

you clearly haven't seen ultimate bunny.

Wisp has a fatter ass. Also, Citrine's v*g just basically out in the open. Also also, the Warframes are always naked. I think the W goes to Warframe.

Warframes are biomechanical suits that the Operators pilot remotely. They don't have an ass because only living beings actually have body parts, and saying Warframes are always naked is like saying Iron Man's suit is always naked - it's an absurd statement.

[ChuckDM]

Publicado originalmente por Cosmic Milkshake:

All of those games minus Titanfall are woke.

What is the political agenda being pushed by BG3? None. There are few direct parallels to IRL politics at all, and the game doesn't pick a side or pass judgment based on your choices. Not woke.

What is the political agenda being pushed by Bioshock? Again, it's either anti-capitalist or anti-patriotism. The former might be woke, if it was handled differently than it is in the first 2 games. The later isn't woke at all. Patriotism doesn't just mean Americans having American patriotism. It also means Chinese having Chinese Communist patriotism, Brits having British patriotism, etc. To be against that isn't woke. It is absolutely and very overtly political, but not woke. It's political in the same way that Spec Ops: The Line is political, and nobody would call that woke.

What is the political agenda being pushed by Bioshock? That depends entirely on your choices as a character. If you play as a Nomad and try to steer the Aldacaldos away from working with BioTechnica, that's a very ant-corporate stance. So is agreeing as much as you can with Silverhand and going the more-or-less anarchist route. But you can also play the Corpo route, despise Johnny and disagree with him constantly, and choose non-violent solutions to gigs that involve targeting Corpos while taking the lethal route against blatantly misogynist characters like Fingers. The player can choose to align themselves with an IRL woke agenda or directly against it. The game isn't woke because it gives you equally valid options to play as woke and anti-woke, not to mention options where you're decidedly neither - you can play as a V with zero morals who solely wants to survive and will take any path available to do so. So no, the game isn't woke.

Like I said, I've not played Titanfall or Alan Wake 2, so I'm not going to comment on those again. If you think CP2077 or BG3 is woke, you're one of those people who label everything you don't like as woke. "Woke" is a term that has a meaning. Actually, an original meaning and a different current meaning. You applying it to these games demonstrates only that you don't know what that meaning is.

[Cosmic Milkshake]

Publicado originalmente por ChuckDM:

Publicado originalmente por Cosmic Milkshake:

All of those games minus Titanfall are woke.

What is the political agenda being pushed by BG3? None. There are few direct parallels to IRL politics at all, and the game doesn't pick a side or pass judgment based on your choices. Not woke.

What is the political agenda being pushed by Bioshock? Again, it's either anti-capitalist or anti-patriotism. The former might be woke, if it was handled differently than it is in the first 2 games. The later isn't woke at all. Patriotism doesn't just mean Americans having American patriotism. It also means Chinese having Chinese Communist patriotism, Brits having British patriotism, etc. To be against that isn't woke. It is absolutely and very overtly political, but not woke. It's political in the same way that Spec Ops: The Line is political, and nobody would call that woke.

What is the political agenda being pushed by Bioshock? That depends entirely on your choices as a character. If you play as a Nomad and try to steer the Aldacaldos away from working with BioTechnica, that's a very ant-corporate stance. So is agreeing as much as you can with Silverhand and going the more-or-less anarchist route. But you can also play the Corpo route, despise Johnny and disagree with him constantly, and choose non-violent solutions to gigs that involve targeting Corpos while taking the lethal route against blatantly misogynist characters like Fingers. The player can choose to align themselves with an IRL woke agenda or directly against it. The game isn't woke because it gives you equally valid options to play as woke and anti-woke, not to mention options where you're decidedly neither - you can play as a V with zero morals who solely wants to survive and will take any path available to do so. So no, the game isn't woke.

Like I said, I've not played Titanfall or Alan Wake 2, so I'm not going to comment on those again. If you think CP2077 or BG3 is woke, you're one of those people who label everything you don't like as woke. "Woke" is a term that has a meaning. Actually, an original meaning and a different current meaning. You applying it to these games demonstrates only that you don't know what that meaning is.

Woke is clearly defined and your intentionally skewing the definition.

simply put It is anything that pushing leftist ideology.

BG3 has a ton of LGBT nonsense in it and although CP2077 is somewhat more neutral it still clearly has some of that same propaganda, just because you liked the games doesn't mean they aren't woke.

[1970. Gen X >:)]

Publicado originalmente por MidusTheAvengingSon:

All the anti-woke crowd can create is worse versions of our art, it's kinda embarrassing.

I'll go enjoy playing a real game with genuine artistic soul, you guys enjoy the knock-off with (somehow) less ass.

ok I gota say this, a lot of you say its warframe copy, I played a bit of warframe...5k hours, this is a destiny 2 rip off. fn menus the hub the icons all of it is destiny. The warframe simularities is .. third person, everything else is destiny 2. the emotes the weapons how they work, the skins the ... everything. any destiny 2 player can see its more of a copy of that than warframe. also warframe has different power ratings with the entire mod builds, this game is using destiny 2 configs and very similar build system and powers.


and anti woke? woke? lol buzzwords. its a game. the game cant be woke or anti woke. Its a product. how you PERCEIVE the product is on you. gay, lesbian, persons of colour or my word the characters religion, non of it matters, the game isnt deep on story to make lasting connections to any of the characters.
in the end every game is like any other game. get a gun shoot enemy rinse repeat.

as an old timer gamer, all games suck, eventually. hot new thing pops up it gets played then it dont. like many many games in your list right now. this will be no different. Not saying games die, sayng your taste is finiky at best and eventually the game ends up in your collection as a fond memory at best.


and what game are you playing that has artistic soul? games of the last decade are about profit, so dying to know what masterpiece you found.

[MidusTheAvengingSon]

Publicado originalmente por ChuckDM:

Publicado originalmente por MidusTheAvengingSon:

Wisp has a fatter ass. Also, Citrine's v*g just basically out in the open. Also also, the Warframes are always naked. I think the W goes to Warframe.

Warframes are biomechanical suits that the Operators pilot remotely. They don't have an ass because only living beings actually have body parts, and saying Warframes are always naked is like saying Iron Man's suit is always naked - it's an absurd statement.

Theres an ENTIRE mission about entering the mind of a Warframe (Excaliber Umbra) to help him find inner-peace. They're fully living-beings which can psychically commune with the operators. They have asses because they're humans.

Is Iron Man's suit a naked (albeit mutated) human body? No, it's not?