The First Descendant

The First Descendant

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IUnstoppable Jul 2, 2024 @ 12:41am
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Fix the stuttering
Bro please fix the stuttering, i dont have fun of this game if you didnt fix!, i love the game but please.... god its soo horrible
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Manuel Jul 2, 2024 @ 4:13pm 
just do alt tab and back to game all time load map
Fixed by setting mouse polling rate to 500....
No stuttering

Problem is that the game cant handle high polling rate fpr mouse, a console bad port.
Last edited by =PALMITu ☯∞☯; Jul 2, 2024 @ 8:59pm
Escalante Jul 2, 2024 @ 9:08pm 
I have played for 8 hours without problem. but when it got to map 3 it started to freeze in the menus, in any window that opened. And then it disconnects you.
Originally posted by ☯ =PALMITu ☯:
Fixed by setting mouse polling rate to 500....
No stuttering

Problem is that the game cant handle high polling rate fpr mouse, a console bad port.
I can assure you, it is NOT the polling rate itself that's the source of this issue.
I found the game just before the last x-play stresstest and it ran fine, no lag, no mouse issue, nothing.

Hardware back then:
5800X3D
32GB Ram
RX480 (with a RX580 Bios mod) [don't ask...bad story]
Crosshair K70Lux Keyboard
Razer Deathadder V2 Pro @ 1kHz polling
PreSonos iO24 Audio Interface

Now it's released and I got issues with "move your mouse to get 0 FPS unless you hold your aim button, aka rightclick, down". When this occurs, the game actually stops utilizing the GPU, you can see in taskmanager that it goes down vom normal uzilisation down to 0-7%.

My Hardware now:
same 5800X3D
same 32B RAM
new RX 7800XT
new AKKO 5075B+ Keyboard
new Glorious Model D Pro Wireless Vice Edition @ 1kHz
new Roland Bridge Cast Audio Interface

And yes, I testes wired and wireless on the mouse, it's the same.

Also different is the software:
I don't use Wallpaper Engine anymore, DisplayFusion got 2 updates since back then, I got a pen display and it's driver but unplugged during gaming (even closed the driver and service, doesn't matter), installed Clip Studio Paint Pro 3.0 and G-Drive to back up my bad drawings. And of course I also stopped G-Drive and DisplayFusion to test if they are the issue...they aren't.

What I noticed though:
First starting the game and going right into it without opening any menu, everything works fine in Albion, but as soon as I open ANY menu, close it and THEN rightclick to aim (which is just a rightclick in Albion) the issue starts to happen. This further tells me, something is wrong with the game and it's menus.
StrafeY Jul 3, 2024 @ 8:02am 
Game is forced to run DX12, not giving the option for DX11 (Which has better performance even on newer hardware, as proven by many, many different tests in different circumstances)

It would be incredible if they allowed us to switch from DX12 to DX11 willingly.

I think there's a few reasons for the stuttering, that ALL contribute to it.

- Mouse Polling Rate (Some players reported that turning it down to 1k fixed their stutters, however im stuttering WITH 1k)
- Client Information Being Sent to Nexon (This is a setting that in almost every game is OPTIONAL, unfortunately is a requirement for TFD)
- Bad Optimisation (Game even on low settings, runs horribly. Getting above 100FPS is DIFFICULT, even on the lowest settings, and I have a 3070ti, it's not like I have a bad PC)
- DX 12 (Known to cause stuttering in a MOUNTAIN of games, some of them: Fortnite, COD, Ready Or Not, Last of Us Part 1)
- Shader Pre-Compiling (Every game I've ever played with this exact thing, has stuttered continuously. TFD is no exception it seems.)

I think all of these are factors towards stuttering, and there isn't a way to make them ALL minimal / nullified without the help from devs directly contributing in form of optimisation updates and etc
2Ravens1Odin Jul 3, 2024 @ 8:04am 
4080 and stutters here, maybe need more setting tinkering, but annoying for sure
ExzoD Jul 3, 2024 @ 8:09am 
I solved my issue !
Windows + TAB and select TFD.
After that, 0 stuttering !
I can finally enjoy playing it !
IUnstoppable Jul 3, 2024 @ 8:37am 
Originally posted by ExzoD:
I solved my issue !
Windows + TAB and select TFD.
After that, 0 stuttering !
I can finally enjoy playing it !

What is TFD?
ExzoD Jul 3, 2024 @ 8:43am 
TFD = The First Descendant :steammocking:
Last edited by ExzoD; Jul 3, 2024 @ 8:43am
IUnstoppable Jul 3, 2024 @ 8:45am 
Originally posted by ExzoD:
TFD = The First Descendant :steammocking:

Oh okay, thanks. I have to wait, because the server isn't responding
rockzroll Jul 4, 2024 @ 1:55am 
they fixed it for me
Troubles The Cat Jul 4, 2024 @ 9:22am 
Originally posted by =THC= Ugly Bastard:
Originally posted by ☯ =PALMITu ☯:
Fixed by setting mouse polling rate to 500....
No stuttering

Problem is that the game cant handle high polling rate fpr mouse, a console bad port.
I can assure you, it is NOT the polling rate itself that's the source of this issue.
I found the game just before the last x-play stresstest and it ran fine, no lag, no mouse issue, nothing.

Hardware back then:
5800X3D
32GB Ram
RX480 (with a RX580 Bios mod) [don't ask...bad story]
Crosshair K70Lux Keyboard
Razer Deathadder V2 Pro @ 1kHz polling
PreSonos iO24 Audio Interface

Now it's released and I got issues with "move your mouse to get 0 FPS unless you hold your aim button, aka rightclick, down". When this occurs, the game actually stops utilizing the GPU, you can see in taskmanager that it goes down vom normal uzilisation down to 0-7%.

My Hardware now:
same 5800X3D
same 32B RAM
new RX 7800XT
new AKKO 5075B+ Keyboard
new Glorious Model D Pro Wireless Vice Edition @ 1kHz
new Roland Bridge Cast Audio Interface

And yes, I testes wired and wireless on the mouse, it's the same.

Also different is the software:
I don't use Wallpaper Engine anymore, DisplayFusion got 2 updates since back then, I got a pen display and it's driver but unplugged during gaming (even closed the driver and service, doesn't matter), installed Clip Studio Paint Pro 3.0 and G-Drive to back up my bad drawings. And of course I also stopped G-Drive and DisplayFusion to test if they are the issue...they aren't.

What I noticed though:
First starting the game and going right into it without opening any menu, everything works fine in Albion, but as soon as I open ANY menu, close it and THEN rightclick to aim (which is just a rightclick in Albion) the issue starts to happen. This further tells me, something is wrong with the game and it's menus.
Yes! This is the exact problem I'm having too. I have tried running on all low, no nvidia reflex no frame gen no dlss and mouse polling to 500mhz, still get absolutely insane stuttering with gpu dropping from 90% down to 30% UNLESS I'm holding the aim button
Beebee Jul 4, 2024 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by IUnstoppable:
Bro please fix the stuttering, i dont have fun of this game if you didnt fix!, i love the game but please.... god its soo horrible
Disable HDR
=]THC[= Ugly Bastard Jul 4, 2024 @ 12:45pm 
Originally posted by Troubles The Cat:
Originally posted by =THC= Ugly Bastard:
I can assure you, it is NOT the polling rate itself that's the source of this issue.
I found the game just before the last x-play stresstest and it ran fine, no lag, no mouse issue, nothing.

Hardware back then:
5800X3D
32GB Ram
RX480 (with a RX580 Bios mod) [don't ask...bad story]
Crosshair K70Lux Keyboard
Razer Deathadder V2 Pro @ 1kHz polling
PreSonos iO24 Audio Interface

Now it's released and I got issues with "move your mouse to get 0 FPS unless you hold your aim button, aka rightclick, down". When this occurs, the game actually stops utilizing the GPU, you can see in taskmanager that it goes down vom normal uzilisation down to 0-7%.

My Hardware now:
same 5800X3D
same 32B RAM
new RX 7800XT
new AKKO 5075B+ Keyboard
new Glorious Model D Pro Wireless Vice Edition @ 1kHz
new Roland Bridge Cast Audio Interface

And yes, I testes wired and wireless on the mouse, it's the same.

Also different is the software:
I don't use Wallpaper Engine anymore, DisplayFusion got 2 updates since back then, I got a pen display and it's driver but unplugged during gaming (even closed the driver and service, doesn't matter), installed Clip Studio Paint Pro 3.0 and G-Drive to back up my bad drawings. And of course I also stopped G-Drive and DisplayFusion to test if they are the issue...they aren't.

What I noticed though:
First starting the game and going right into it without opening any menu, everything works fine in Albion, but as soon as I open ANY menu, close it and THEN rightclick to aim (which is just a rightclick in Albion) the issue starts to happen. This further tells me, something is wrong with the game and it's menus.
Yes! This is the exact problem I'm having too. I have tried running on all low, no nvidia reflex no frame gen no dlss and mouse polling to 500mhz, still get absolutely insane stuttering with gpu dropping from 90% down to 30% UNLESS I'm holding the aim button
Working workaround for me is ro reduce polling down to 250Hz as I still had issues on 500Hz...something that shouldn't be necessary in 2024...

Anyway, I did a bit more testing on my end and found something...weird, so it might be a one time thing.

When I started the game today, EVERYTHING was fine, even opening a menu didn't cause issues. Then a friend wanted to play and messaged me through steam. Still fine until here.

I "tabbed out" to start teamspeak, joined and the issue was back there. Holding rightclick (aim) and all smooth, only moving the mouse bringes the GPU utilization back down.

My current thinking is:
The game has in some circumstances issues with properly refocussing.
It is as if the game is in some kind of inbetween state, where it is in focus unless you move your mouse. That it goes back to normal when you aim might indicate that the button press/hold temporarily force focusses the game, temporarily fixing the issue for the duration of the button press.
Why lowering the polling rate can some times be a workaround is beyond me though.
Silent Jul 4, 2024 @ 12:52pm 
Yep, same!
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Date Posted: Jul 2, 2024 @ 12:41am
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