Nexon money scam or not?

[KillMyDay]

by now a lot have heard of the nexon maplestory scam

how big is the risk of the scam here you think?
and how much money will they try to grab from us?

im a fan of the game and i dont mind giving some money out but i think nexon is going to F us over, like most of the times they do and ruin it.

[exotrax]

Originally posted by Chronos:

we do not know...

but if there are loot boxes to buy then yes there might be manipulation, if its stuff like cosmetics, and characters or the items to progress then i don't see the problem in manipulation since it would have a fixed price, maybe pay two win but no manipulation unless they sell loot boxes with items ... as of now they havent talked about loot boxes with random rewards or character, hopefully monetization is like warframe and tthe likes since they said it would be battle passes and cosmetics only

lootboxes for real money are banned in the country I live, and the game is available at launch so I think that the monetization will be different

[Kenshi]

Of course it will be a money scam, its nexon.

[Min/Max]

Originally posted by L:

It's Nexon

A company that locked outfits in Vindictus behind RNG boxes...this is that company. Yeah, they're going to do what they always do, make thing's problematic on purpose and sell you the solutions.

This has been their tactics, and it won't be any different. I've run the Beta for this game, and it's actually fun, with the classes being enjoyable. However again, this game being FTP, meaning they will take every bit of penny out of you, it's just that simple.

It's going to be P2W, and I'm tired of people stating "Pay for Convenience" crap statement when it's literally P2W, you want to get things fast, get to the best options the fastest, you Pay.

Playing the betas, you can already see what they're planning to do. I will ultimately wait for the game to release, and "see" what they do. However, it's going to more than likely have 10 million micro-transactions on release date, guaranteed.

Prove me wrong Nexon, I would love to see yet, however all of my history playing any of your games has told me otherwise...

Well don't buy outfits... No one if forcing you to buy them. FYI you can unlock all Descendants just by playing the game. It has been confirmed multiple times.

[Gkar_of_Narn]

Originally posted by Boomer Shooter:

Originally posted by L:

It's Nexon

A company that locked outfits in Vindictus behind RNG boxes...this is that company. Yeah, they're going to do what they always do, make thing's problematic on purpose and sell you the solutions.

This has been their tactics, and it won't be any different. I've run the Beta for this game, and it's actually fun, with the classes being enjoyable. However again, this game being FTP, meaning they will take every bit of penny out of you, it's just that simple.

It's going to be P2W, and I'm tired of people stating "Pay for Convenience" crap statement when it's literally P2W, you want to get things fast, get to the best options the fastest, you Pay.

Playing the betas, you can already see what they're planning to do. I will ultimately wait for the game to release, and "see" what they do. However, it's going to more than likely have 10 million micro-transactions on release date, guaranteed.

Prove me wrong Nexon, I would love to see yet, however all of my history playing any of your games has told me otherwise...

Well don't buy outfits... No one if forcing you to buy them. FYI you can unlock all Descendants just by playing the game. It has been confirmed multiple times.

Please keep in mind that nobody (except Nexon) has yet seen how the monetization will work in the late game. I believe that we should be very wary & skeptical about the late-game monetization given Nexon’s past behavior with their other games. I hope that I’ll be proven wrong because I want this game to be successful!!! 👍

[Sylastin]

Its Free so you gonna have to deal with P2W things

[Min/Max]

Originally posted by Gkar_of_Narn:

Please keep in mind that nobody (except Nexon) has yet seen how the monetization will work in the late game. I believe that we should be very wary & skeptical about the late-game monetization given Nexon’s past behavior with their other games. I hope that I’ll be proven wrong because I want this game to be successful!!! 👍

Well of course, We still don't know what will happen with Ultimate Descendants and if they will be paid only... At least we know for a fact that 11 base Descendants are obtainable by playing, Which should be enough to keep you going for a long time.

[Xaelon]

You're right to be suspicious of Nexon. The rate fixing BS they pulled in Maple Story should make it very clear you should NEVER trust them and stay FAR FAR away from any microtransactions that involve RNG.

But they can't scam you if you never give them any money.

And lastly if the game too painful to play without spending money that's your cue to quit. Just get out before their mindgames get you to spend money.

[L]

Originally posted by First Descendant:

Well don't buy outfits... No one if forcing you to buy them. FYI you can unlock all Descendants just by playing the game. It has been confirmed multiple times.

It isn't just outfits alone. Sure, you don't "have" to buy outfits, however locking outfits behind RNG Boxes to where you only have a "chance" to obtain the outfit is 100% bs no matter what anyone tries to proclaim.

Selling outfits isn't the "big" issue, although selling outfits in previous Nexon games for $20-30 is another bs move, considering that's as much as a proper DLC for most games.

Playing the betas, you can already see the rates for things, and the question arises...Will they keep the rates and drops the same? Or will they be made worse? It's grindy on purpose in order to push the incentive for people into wanting to pay.

Their is going to more than likely be things in which they have will sell "options" to relieve, or lessen problems in the game.

For example, I played Vindictus which is run by Nexon...when it first started, they had "Coins" that you needed, to just run missions...however you were limited to 30, and guess what happens when you run out? Oh yeah...you could no longer run missions anymore, basically you couldn't play the game anymore.

Their was obviously an uproar for this, and yet somehow, you had sheep that were willing to support such a bogus system, and yes, they would get "replenished" on a Wed, and Sat, however if you ran out...you can always "buy" them with real money.

They ultimately removed this, when the population plummeted due to bs monetization, and guess what...Vindictus just a few years ago reintroduced another system...the "fatigue" system..which works just like the coin system when this game first released.

Fatigue at zero? Sleep in-game to replenish, which basically refrained you from actually playing the game (you cannot run missions when fatigue is at zero)...or Pay to buy the potions to replenish your fatigue.

Yes, you can "earn" potions in-game however the real question is this Why implement such a bs system in the first place? Easy Answer. Money.

Why do you think that game is literally on life support from that point onward?

Basically, every single Nexon game has had some sort of absolute scummy work, and with a history like that, everyone who has played previous Nexon games would go with a great sense of caution.

Again, they've backed amazing games in the past...and killed it directly due to the micro-transactions.

The First Descendant if done correctly, will actually be a banger. I feel that if they actually made the game Paid, as in a one time payment of $40 or whatever, and they lessened the monetization, then the game would be significantly better.

However, with it being F2P...do not be surprised when they push out mtx right on release date, I can almost guarantee this will be a fact when the game goes live.

[Niliu]

Originally posted by KillMyDay:

by now a lot have heard of the nexon maplestory scam

how big is the risk of the scam here you think?
and how much money will they try to grab from us?

im a fan of the game and i dont mind giving some money out but i think nexon is going to F us over, like most of the times they do and ruin it.

Everything out of their region of the world is a scam. All these games are designed to steal your data for their governments and criminal enterprises.

[Niliu]

Originally posted by Xaelon:

You're right to be suspicious of Nexon. The rate fixing BS they pulled in Maple Story should make it very clear you should NEVER trust them and stay FAR FAR away from any microtransactions that involve RNG.

But they can't scam you if you never give them any money.

And lastly if the game too painful to play without spending money that's your cue to quit. Just get out before their mindgames get you to spend money.

Installing the software is how they get you. The software is a worm, stealing all your data and selling it to Eastern crime rings and governments.

[Hollow-Enigma]

Data security isn't an issue exclusive to Asia, that'd be a gross generalization. Besides there are numerous measures in place to avoid unauthorized data collection. And the very act itself is discouraged by the consequences it has on company reputation.

[Niliu]

Originally posted by Hollow-Enigma:

Data security isn't an issue exclusive to Asia, that'd be a gross generalization. Besides there are numerous measures in place to avoid unauthorized data collection. And the very act itself is discouraged by the consequences it has on company reputation.

Discouraged when it's encouraged by the State?

[Hollow-Enigma]

Except it is not, they have their own data privacy laws. And even if those are different when selling products to a consumer in say the EU the local regulations apply. They can't just do whatever they want, they get checked.

[Gkar_of_Narn]

Originally posted by Hollow-Enigma:

Except it is not, they have their own data privacy laws. And even if those are different when selling products to a consumer in say the EU the local regulations apply. They can't just do whatever they want, they get checked.

Yes, you’re correct!👍

[Faiyez]

Originally posted by exotrax:

lootboxes for real money are banned in the country I live, and the game is available at launch so I think that the monetization will be different

If this game isn't banned in the Netherlands, that's an obvious mistake.

And Netherlands is pushing for lootbox games to be banned in all of EU.