The First Descendant

The First Descendant

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Raven3r 23 jun, 2024 @ 3:47
Explain fraud from the devs
Yo,

So I see everyone from time to time write about the fraud these devs did with Mapple story, I think they also had one good f2p game like Chivalry 2 but they shut it down, forgot what its name was.

Can anyone tell what exactly happend so these company is getting so much hate?

If you ask me this game looks promising, I mean it is obvious it is a clone of existing game of same genre, but still...
Ursprungligen skrivet av Mosthra:
To be honest, the MapleStory scandal is very serious, and it went on secretly for many years until it was exposed, revealing that Nexon had done something similar with most of the drop/upgrade rates. They paid fines, but the fines were insignificant compared to the damage to players and the profits they pocketed. Anyway, the lifecycle of MapleStory, Crazy Arcade, or Dungeon & Fighter is essentially over. A few years later, Nexon became more cautious and invested in the smartphone market instead of PCs.

Aside from the scandals you've heard about, there's not much else to complain about with Nexon these days. Dragon Nest and Vindictus also performed very well in the end, despite the terrible scandals of MapleStory.

In recent years, as the smartphone market has become saturated, Nexon aims to return to PCs to make money with new franchises, The First Descendant
or Vindictus: Defying Fate, and The First Berserker: Khazan. They feature high-quality graphics.

So if it's all good, why complain because it's Nexon?
Yes, because it's Nexon (or it could be most Korean games). Their design has long and repetitive loops, revolving around constant grinding and continuous gear forging/upgrading, with success and failure rates clearly visible for each percentage point. If you've ever played Black Desert, you'll know that each time you fail to upgrade a piece of equipment, you fail into a pit of despair (losing equipment, resources, and time, and you have to go back and upgrade a piece from level 1). MapleStory used to be like that too, so people were ready to throw money at it to save their upgrade success rates... until they realized they were being tricked.

I can assure you that The First Descendant won't have such a miserable and deceitful upgrade mechanism. However, their approach to the market system and selling cosmetics like Warframe might happen, which is fair enough. Nexon wouldn't dare to do something similar to what they did with MapleStory again because that would be the end for them in the PC market (they still have several PC titles yet to be released). And the market is too saturated now, if they did that again, they would surely face dire consequences.

People hate Nexon but they don't hate Nexon's studios or developers. I can say they are talented individuals; Nexon's games have had good stories and engaging gameplay loops. And look at the current graphics, you can trust and support them (but still be cautious with Nexon).
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Mosthra 23 jun, 2024 @ 6:00 
To be honest, the MapleStory scandal is very serious, and it went on secretly for many years until it was exposed, revealing that Nexon had done something similar with most of the drop/upgrade rates. They paid fines, but the fines were insignificant compared to the damage to players and the profits they pocketed. Anyway, the lifecycle of MapleStory, Crazy Arcade, or Dungeon & Fighter is essentially over. A few years later, Nexon became more cautious and invested in the smartphone market instead of PCs.

Aside from the scandals you've heard about, there's not much else to complain about with Nexon these days. Dragon Nest and Vindictus also performed very well in the end, despite the terrible scandals of MapleStory.

In recent years, as the smartphone market has become saturated, Nexon aims to return to PCs to make money with new franchises, The First Descendant
or Vindictus: Defying Fate, and The First Berserker: Khazan. They feature high-quality graphics.

So if it's all good, why complain because it's Nexon?
Yes, because it's Nexon (or it could be most Korean games). Their design has long and repetitive loops, revolving around constant grinding and continuous gear forging/upgrading, with success and failure rates clearly visible for each percentage point. If you've ever played Black Desert, you'll know that each time you fail to upgrade a piece of equipment, you fail into a pit of despair (losing equipment, resources, and time, and you have to go back and upgrade a piece from level 1). MapleStory used to be like that too, so people were ready to throw money at it to save their upgrade success rates... until they realized they were being tricked.

I can assure you that The First Descendant won't have such a miserable and deceitful upgrade mechanism. However, their approach to the market system and selling cosmetics like Warframe might happen, which is fair enough. Nexon wouldn't dare to do something similar to what they did with MapleStory again because that would be the end for them in the PC market (they still have several PC titles yet to be released). And the market is too saturated now, if they did that again, they would surely face dire consequences.

People hate Nexon but they don't hate Nexon's studios or developers. I can say they are talented individuals; Nexon's games have had good stories and engaging gameplay loops. And look at the current graphics, you can trust and support them (but still be cautious with Nexon).
Rogue 23 jun, 2024 @ 6:15 
Considering you are playing overwatch "two".... Come on man.
Senast ändrad av Rogue; 23 jun, 2024 @ 6:15
Hollow-Enigma 23 jun, 2024 @ 7:21 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Rogue:
Considering you are playing overwatch "two".... Come on man.

Not really a fair point, Overwatch is a fundamentally good game with a cash shop entirely seperate to gameplay so their decisions on monetization don't impact the core experience, except for that one period they locked heroes behind the BP.

Their decisions regarding monetization itself though is absolute first rate garbage though. Went from being able to earn skins at random but for free, to paying 20$ a piece on "sale" + the feature they used to reason why they've decided to call it Overwatch 2 was throw in the trash.
Senast ändrad av Hollow-Enigma; 23 jun, 2024 @ 7:24
Galroche 23 jun, 2024 @ 10:54 
do a quick search on mapplestory case you'll find the info you want.

long story short, they broke the law of their country by modifying lootbox drop rate based on people/actions to get more money out of them.
mcnichoj 24 jun, 2024 @ 23:31 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Rogue:
Considering you are playing overwatch "two".... Come on man.
As if the game you have featured on your profile with nearly 4,000 hours; PSO2, doesn't have its own share of scandals. Shut up with your what about-ism. :balloonicorn:
DDENN 25 jun, 2024 @ 2:55 
they made f2p player cant progess cos storage is full in undecember, need to pay for more storage.
Chronos 25 jun, 2024 @ 3:49 
Ursprungligen skrivet av DDENN:
they made f2p player cant progess cos storage is full in undecember, need to pay for more storage.

Most free to play games that have limited storage would require you at some point to either drop a lot of items or buy some extra storage… if you really enjoy a game that is free buying some extra storage sometimes should not be a problem unless that storage is super expensive (its usually cheap)
Strubacon 13 jul, 2024 @ 12:48 
12 Days after purchase of 2 packs and still no Caliber or a refund!! Feels like they are scamming a lot of us with TFD "Caliber delivery errors" I have receipts I issued 2 requests and then was unable to login to Nexon support. When I got back my 2 request were gone and now issued a new. Still no response.
Dezktop 13 jul, 2024 @ 12:53 
there is multiple teams under nexon. 1 team isn't making every game published by nexon. the same team who made maple story isn't the same team that made vindictus which isn't the same team that made this, but corporate nexon has remained.
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