THE FINALS

THE FINALS

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CEO of Cunny 9 Des 2023 @ 1:58pm
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Does this somehow feel like the most soulless game to anyone else?
Not even the AI voice acting. The general feel of the game is just incredibly soulless. There doesn't seem to be a distinct art style, playstyle, or theme to the game. It literally feels like they had an AI create the entire concept of the game. While playing I just couldn't shake the feeling that this wasn't something that was created because somebody had a vision of a good game. It feels like something that was created because corporate wanted a new multiplayer shooter to sell to Zoomers.

Does anyone else feel this? It feels like the most corporate, sanitized, and generic game I could have never imagined on my own yet here it is. The game itself is okay, but definitely not something I see myself playing for more than a week.
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Diposting pertama kali oleh redhead9:
I'll add that this games style is pretty unique in modern gaming. the animations are a joy and are clearly made by passionate animators. The atmosphere is great and I haven't had a game get me yelling for a win like i'm watching my home team in a long time.
I wasn't aware they made an AI to comment on threads.
smokratez 9 Des 2023 @ 2:48pm 
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Diposting pertama kali oleh redhead9:
I'll add that this games style is pretty unique in modern gaming. the animations are a joy and are clearly made by passionate animators. The atmosphere is great and I haven't had a game get me yelling for a win like i'm watching my home team in a long time.
I wasn't aware they made an AI to comment on threads.

there are so many bots in these comments. it's so stupid.

I am going to start reporting the ♥♥♥ accounts. steam better ban these or they will lose their own forums
Terakhir diedit oleh smokratez; 9 Des 2023 @ 2:49pm
Where's your soulful game that you created then
Monday Night Combat did the "Game Show" theme much better. It had far more personality, and its character designs were awesome.

I do agree that much of this game feels like it was churned out by AI. Even the levels are incredibly soulless, with a bunch of copy--paste interiors and multi-level skyscrapers. There aren't any awesome setpieces to fight over, or memorable areas. It's mostly stuff that feels like the result of an algorithm, rather than creative thinking on behalf of a talented level designer.
Terakhir diedit oleh Chubzdoomer; 9 Des 2023 @ 8:38pm
Yall alr acknowledged its a game show concept yet claim there isnt a concept...

The blue grid dimension is pretty obvious they are making that "corporate game show generated stage" hunger games, unless you guys want a whole skyrim NPC experience in the maps I don't really get what you mean by "soulless"
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Diposting pertama kali oleh Captain Sugoi:
I wasn't aware they made an AI to comment on threads.
You ask if anyone else agreed. He gives a solid answer as to why he does not. You insult him like a edgy 15 year old who has not even played the game. We can see that btw kid. Don't ask the question if you are just going to cry someone knows how to actually word a point lol.
If you can't tell that this is an AI comment then you are genuinely stupid. This is the most artificial comment I've seen. If not, the dude is using some sort of translator. Either way, you sound like the target audience for this game.
vizthex 9 Des 2023 @ 9:06pm 
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Yall alr acknowledged its a game show concept yet claim there isnt a concept...

The blue grid dimension is pretty obvious they are making that "corporate game show generated stage" hunger games, unless you guys want a whole skyrim NPC experience in the maps I don't really get what you mean by "soulless"
for real.

i've never played a game that felt "soulless" so i still don't fully understand what people mean by it, but some of the worst games i've played are just so broken it becomes useless to try (like Ark), or are so boring that i don't understand the hype behind them (like Skyrim).

but The Finals isn't like that. It's got great combat, sound design, map design, and a framing device i'd never seen used before (although i know it's been done, i just haven't heard of and/or played any games that used the "you're actually in a game" concept before).

i think it's just people who don't like the game denying it by making up excuses. That happens quite often (hell, i used to be do the same thing) and it's one of the few things that annoys me on a very specific level - knowing that it's just a cognitive bias but still wanting people to just go "yeah, this isn't my type of game but [insert things] are good about it. I've played several games like that but have still left positive reviews just because i could tell it'd be a great game if you're into the genre (Scrap Mechanic and Stardew Valley being my main examples).
Terakhir diedit oleh vizthex; 9 Des 2023 @ 9:06pm
This is the only game that let's you destroy the entire map in a competitive multiplayer scene and you don't have to deal with 0 kill teammates flaming you because you're doing better than them. In what ways do you think this game is sanitized?
OW will literally ban you if you emote the 'wrong' way or use voice chat too much, CSGO is just boring and repetitive, and Siege is just csgo but with 5 destructible walls in the entire game.
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Diposting pertama kali oleh Pontianak Tamer:
Yall alr acknowledged its a game show concept yet claim there isnt a concept...

The blue grid dimension is pretty obvious they are making that "corporate game show generated stage" hunger games, unless you guys want a whole skyrim NPC experience in the maps I don't really get what you mean by "soulless"
for real.

i've never played a game that felt "soulless" so i still don't fully understand what people mean by it, but some of the worst games i've played are just so broken it becomes useless to try (like Ark), or are so boring that i don't understand the hype behind them (like Skyrim).

but The Finals isn't like that. It's got great combat, sound design, map design, and a framing device i'd never seen used before (although i know it's been done, i just haven't heard of and/or played any games that used the "you're actually in a game" concept before).

i think it's just people who don't like the game denying it by making up excuses. That happens quite often (hell, i used to be do the same thing) and it's one of the few things that annoys me on a very specific level - knowing that it's just a cognitive bias but still wanting people to just go "yeah, this isn't my type of game but [insert things] are good about it. I've played several games like that but have still left positive reviews just because i could tell it'd be a great game if you're into the genre (Scrap Mechanic and Stardew Valley being my main examples).

Is a common issue with the general consumer base, when they know nuts about programming or creating assets and concepts

There are people who actually think you can just type "Make me a soulless shooter game" and chatgpt straight up creates 1 just like that.
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Diposting pertama kali oleh Pontianak Tamer:
Yall alr acknowledged its a game show concept yet claim there isnt a concept...

The blue grid dimension is pretty obvious they are making that "corporate game show generated stage" hunger games, unless you guys want a whole skyrim NPC experience in the maps I don't really get what you mean by "soulless"
for real.

i've never played a game that felt "soulless" so i still don't fully understand what people mean by it, but some of the worst games i've played are just so broken it becomes useless to try (like Ark), or are so boring that i don't understand the hype behind them (like Skyrim).

but The Finals isn't like that. It's got great combat, sound design, map design, and a framing device i'd never seen used before (although i know it's been done, i just haven't heard of and/or played any games that used the "you're actually in a game" concept before).

i think it's just people who don't like the game denying it by making up excuses. That happens quite often (hell, i used to be do the same thing) and it's one of the few things that annoys me on a very specific level - knowing that it's just a cognitive bias but still wanting people to just go "yeah, this isn't my type of game but [insert things] are good about it. I've played several games like that but have still left positive reviews just because i could tell it'd be a great game if you're into the genre (Scrap Mechanic and Stardew Valley being my main examples).
The gameplay is fine. I just think it's extremely generic and safe which is what makes it soulless. There's no real defining feature of the game that hasn't been seen in other games. It's a mishmash of other game's concepts and it's packaged in a game that's neither bad or amazing. It's comfortably mid. The game feels like something that was made by a bunch of shareholders in a meeting and not something that had actual passion behind it. Even the team names in the game are super generic. All of this makes it feel like an AI prompt for a game, not that it was actually made that way.

This game is like the equivalent of fast food. It's okay but I was just left a bit confused by how corporate it feels. Maybe some of you are too young, but games used to not feel like this. The fact that the UI and monetization is so copy-pasted is something I can't get past. Also feels like it'll be an E-sports bait game.
NeonBlade 9 Des 2023 @ 9:40pm 
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Diposting pertama kali oleh Swanky McSwanky Pants:
I actually think the game has a lot of style, imo the only real issue is the ai really pulls the charm out of the game. I really hope to see real VAs soon in the future
are you being paid by voice actors?

What voice actors?
Diposting pertama kali oleh Pontianak Tamer:
Where's your soulful game that you created then
I don't agree with OP but this is a braindead take to bring up. It's like saying you can't criticize a movie bc you're not a director, or you can't criticize art bc you're not an artist, or you can't say a book is bad bc you're not a novelist. You've proven nothing and brought nothing to the table
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Diposting pertama kali oleh Pontianak Tamer:
Where's your soulful game that you created then
I don't agree with OP but this is a braindead take to bring up. It's like saying you can't criticize a movie bc you're not a director, or you can't criticize art bc you're not an artist, or you can't say a book is bad bc you're not a novelist. You've proven nothing and brought nothing to the table

Braindead take for a braindead opinion

It doesnt mean you cant criticize but it definitely drops the validity by alot if you don't understand the thought and process that went into it. Especially when it is also barely constructive feedback despite the glaring differences
Terakhir diedit oleh Pontianak Tamer; 9 Des 2023 @ 9:47pm
Jeff 9 Des 2023 @ 9:46pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Captain Sugoi:
It feels like something that was created because corporate wanted a new multiplayer shooter to sell to Zoomers.

I don't consider it to be exactly soulless, but isn't this the case with just about every modern non-indie game released today? Everything, and I mean everything non-indie, is released according to some corporate aim to seize upon a trend.

If this game didn't run so well, look so good, and generally come together quite nicely, yeah, I might call it soulless. But as it is, I think it's a good start, a good foundation for what could become a fantastic game.
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Diposting pertama kali oleh RATDIMIR:
I don't agree with OP but this is a braindead take to bring up. It's like saying you can't criticize a movie bc you're not a director, or you can't criticize art bc you're not an artist, or you can't say a book is bad bc you're not a novelist. You've proven nothing and brought nothing to the table

Braindead take for a braindead opinion

It doesnt mean you cant criticize but it definitely drops the validity by alot if you don't understand the thought and process that went into it. Especially when it is also barely constructive feedback despite the glaring differences
By your same logic you can't praise it either because you haven't made a game. You wouldn't know the thought or process behind it. Honestly, I think your brain might be too smooth for you to be on a forum without a handler. At least the ChatGPT guy from earlier was making coherent sentences.
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