L one-shot shotgun killing a H. 360 DMG.

[LMBits]

Nice one Embark you really did it creating the god class. Taser, invisibility, one-shot killing heavies, snipers, dashes, fast melee, 3 hits to anyone, 1 hit knife! This is why the game is flooded with L. Obvious.

[Metharius]

"nerf RPG" :^)

[Netsa]

Shotgun doesn't oneshot Heavies. Can someone post the maximum damage that thing does? Because I feel like no one has any idea what it is even though everyone's using it. Next thing you know, the shotgun will be sniping, breaking walls, and oneshotting Mesh Shields.

Dagger can't oneshot Heavies, either.

And yeah, C4 does need another nerf.

[GZ]

Lights are garbage in any sort of competitive setting. Med will continue to run this game

[LMBits]

Originally posted by Netsa:

Shotgun doesn't oneshot Heavies. Can someone post the maximum damage that thing does? Because I feel like no one has any idea what it is even though everyone's using it. Next thing you know, the shotgun will be sniping, breaking walls, and oneshotting Mesh Shields.

Dagger can't oneshot Heavies, either.

And yeah, C4 does need another nerf.

I just got killed by someone and it was the only damage source. 360!! Me and my mate saw and heard a single shot. Now it could have been a bug either way doing too much damage or the guy shooting twice and none of us heard it. We were inside a dome so he had to come in and we just heard one shot. Honestly it is first time it happened to me. So maybe is not a single shot to heavies but even 2 shots is a lot. Heavies meant to be the tank of the team and sometimes it feels like a medium against some weapons. The heavy weapons are really bad so at least let him survive longer than a medium.

[Netsa]

Originally posted by LMBits:

So maybe is not a single shot to heavies but even 2 shots is a lot. Heavies meant to be the tank of the team and sometimes it feels like a medium against some weapons. The heavy weapons are really bad so at least let him survive longer than a medium.

Yeah, I get ya. It's a 2-shot on Heavy, iirc, from point-blank range. Meaning the damage on Light's shotgun really is just extremely high.

Don't discount Heavy's weapons, though. Heavy's shotgun, Lewis, and grenade launcher are all very powerful, along with RPG and C4, both of which can oneshot Lights. If you saw him coming, you could have killed him from the dome before he shot you, Lights are very fragile.

[Yojimb0v]

Originally posted by LMBits:

I just got killed by someone and it was the only damage source. 360!! Me and my mate saw and heard a single shot. Now it could have been a bug either way doing too much damage or the guy shooting twice and none of us heard it. We were inside a dome so he had to come in and we just heard one shot. Honestly it is first time it happened to me. So maybe is not a single shot to heavies but even 2 shots is a lot. Heavies meant to be the tank of the team and sometimes it feels like a medium against some weapons. The heavy weapons are really bad so at least let him survive longer than a medium.

happened to me too! one shot, DB shotty.

[LMBits]

Originally posted by Netsa:

Originally posted by LMBits:

So maybe is not a single shot to heavies but even 2 shots is a lot. Heavies meant to be the tank of the team and sometimes it feels like a medium against some weapons. The heavy weapons are really bad so at least let him survive longer than a medium.

Yeah, I get ya. It's a 2-shot on Heavy, iirc, from point-blank range. Meaning the damage on Light's shotgun really is just extremely high.

Don't discount Heavy's weapons, though. Heavy's shotgun, Lewis, and grenade launcher are all very powerful, along with RPG and C4, both of which can oneshot Lights. If you saw him coming, you could have killed him from the dome before he shot you, Lights are very fragile.

I know they are fragile but extremely dangerous and to me they are slightly OP in comparison to a Heavy. I've played 160-170 matches with a heavy and medium weapons have higher damage and as you are bigger they normally take you in 1vs1. In general it is not that hard to kill a heavy and they basically killed the dome because 300 is nothing. I feel like the Heavy is not what it suppose to be.

[LMBits]

Originally posted by Yojimbo:

Originally posted by LMBits:

I just got killed by someone and it was the only damage source. 360!! Me and my mate saw and heard a single shot. Now it could have been a bug either way doing too much damage or the guy shooting twice and none of us heard it. We were inside a dome so he had to come in and we just heard one shot. Honestly it is first time it happened to me. So maybe is not a single shot to heavies but even 2 shots is a lot. Heavies meant to be the tank of the team and sometimes it feels like a medium against some weapons. The heavy weapons are really bad so at least let him survive longer than a medium.

happened to me too! one shot, DB shotty.

Yes asked my mate again the guy hit me once for sure. Just double questioning because someone else said it's not possible but that's what happened to me.

[Gatau]

These devs dont play games, this game has a short term hype and will die fast. There are so many stupid ♥♥♥♥♥ that I foudn by just playing a couple of hours and with my decades of experience, this one is dumb and will die fast.

[Netsa]

Originally posted by LMBits:

Originally posted by Netsa:

Yeah, I get ya. It's a 2-shot on Heavy, iirc, from point-blank range. Meaning the damage on Light's shotgun really is just extremely high.

Don't discount Heavy's weapons, though. Heavy's shotgun, Lewis, and grenade launcher are all very powerful, along with RPG and C4, both of which can oneshot Lights. If you saw him coming, you could have killed him from the dome before he shot you, Lights are very fragile.

I know they are fragile but extremely dangerous and to me they are slightly OP in comparison to a Heavy. I've played 160-170 matches with a heavy and medium weapons have higher damage and as you are bigger they normally take you in 1vs1. In general it is not that hard to kill a heavy and they basically killed the dome because 300 is nothing. I feel like the Heavy is not what it suppose to be.

No, Heavies weapons are stronger than Mediums. Against any Medium 1v1, you should win unless you miss. The dome shield is basically adding an extra 300 to your existing health pool of 350, so it's still pretty good.

Lights are more dangerous than Heavy 1v1, but they're a lot worse in a team 3v3 scenario compared to Heavies because they lack AoE and shields, and they're REALLY susceptible to land mines (explosive mine was recently nerfed to no longer oneshot Lights, but 1 mine is still strong enough to take them out of the fight). Heavy's C4 combo, for instance, can still instantly double-kill half a team. Light has no way of doing that, he just picks off individual enemies.

[more espresso]

Originally posted by GZ:

Lights are garbage in any sort of competitive setting. Med will continue to run this game

True! Best team comps: HMM, MMM, MHH

[munderfire]

Originally posted by LMBits:

Originally posted by Netsa:

Shotgun doesn't oneshot Heavies. Can someone post the maximum damage that thing does? Because I feel like no one has any idea what it is even though everyone's using it. Next thing you know, the shotgun will be sniping, breaking walls, and oneshotting Mesh Shields.

Dagger can't oneshot Heavies, either.

And yeah, C4 does need another nerf.

I just got killed by someone and it was the only damage source. 360!! Me and my mate saw and heard a single shot. Now it could have been a bug either way doing too much damage or the guy shooting twice and none of us heard it. We were inside a dome so he had to come in and we just heard one shot. Honestly it is first time it happened to me. So maybe is not a single shot to heavies but even 2 shots is a lot. Heavies meant to be the tank of the team and sometimes it feels like a medium against some weapons. The heavy weapons are really bad so at least let him survive longer than a medium.

don't worry - that's usually cheaters
seem like they have macros to double shot and going invisible right after it so they allways in invis and shooting both shotgun loads at once

[Ghost]

Originally posted by Netsa:

Shotgun doesn't oneshot Heavies. Can someone post the maximum damage that thing does? Because I feel like no one has any idea what it is even though everyone's using it. Next thing you know, the shotgun will be sniping, breaking walls, and oneshotting Mesh Shields.

Dagger can't oneshot Heavies, either.

And yeah, C4 does need another nerf.

Seriously?? Everything in this stupid game takes too many rounds just to kill 1 person. It would be better if this was more realistic ballistics wise.

[Netsa]

Originally posted by Jim0991:

Seriously?? Everything in this stupid game takes too many rounds just to kill 1 person. It would be better if this was more realistic ballistics wise.

Not really, unless they sped up respawns to compensate. Fast TTK works in games like CoD and CS because you respawn quickly (or don't respawn at all), and there's only two teams on the field.

[Gamefreak]

Heavy one shotting everyone with C4, RPG, an auto shotty.