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๖ۣۜPanics™ 2023 年 12 月 20 日 下午 3:01
Anti-Cheat update to let everyone hack?
After the Update 1.4.0 i found literally 0 Games today without hacking idiots.
You spawn: you are dead (across the map), they need 0 seconds to get the cashout, they have infinit ammo, they use the Defi as a heavy with pistols..?
Its just broken right now. Uninstalled and never playing this s!ht again unless someone with programming skills fixes this stupidly implemented Anti-Cheat.

Atleast this game was a good reason to play Apex again.
最后由 ๖ۣۜPanics™ 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 20 日 下午 3:01
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JOHNDOE(1) 2023 年 12 月 20 日 下午 3:05 
What region did you play in?
Ersatz 2023 年 12 月 20 日 下午 3:18 
That's strange. I played about 10 matches in the EU today and didn't see a single person acting strangely or pulling crazy results. Guess I got lucky.
bullet 2023 年 12 月 20 日 下午 3:36 
haven't seen a single hacker yet, I'm playing on SA tho
IKnowGunFu 2023 年 12 月 20 日 下午 4:03 
引用自 Ersatz
That's strange. I played about 10 matches in the EU today and didn't see a single person acting strangely or pulling crazy results. Guess I got lucky.
I think it really depends on what time of day you're on.
Gunz 2023 年 12 月 20 日 下午 4:08 
Another person to drop a nade and not elaborate.
๖ۣۜPanics™ 2023 年 12 月 21 日 上午 1:34 
What should i elaborate on?
Playing on EU Region mostly from like 6pm till 11pm with a friend and even he cant say why this is such a mess.
Before the update i got kicked like every second game duo to "integrity check failed" what ever this means but i haven´t seen such strange behaviour like now.
I mean we got a player yesterday that played 44/0 that literally killed us through every building and distruced everything with simple pistols..
ZWE1HVNDXR 2023 年 12 月 21 日 上午 2:43 
ASIAN SERVER ARE GARBAGE.. RANKED 100 MATCH = 94 MATCH FILLED BY HACKER
SHOOTING FROM 150M++ AWAY

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3114321966&tscn=1703055205
๖ۣۜPanics™ 2023 年 12 月 21 日 上午 2:45 
Ye got stats like that from random dudes on EU Servers...
Never tryed Asian Servers but it looks like i dont need to anyway..
jewminator 2023 年 12 月 21 日 上午 4:38 
i switched to asia servers from EU and actually meet less cheaters lmao.
EU is unplayable.
OC was decent to all games are a sweatfest but the lag makes it unplayable for me aswell.

So far 0 issues with Asia servers and ive played like 15 ranked matches.
people need to realize its not the chinese matter of fact there is cheaters everywhere in every country

and that people dont get AUTO BANNED for doing 90 kills a game is beyond my understanding.
not auto banned for doing Headshots only across the map and so on.
people with a KD of 300+ not getting auto banned/ auto flagged whatever its all beyond my understanding. Its so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ simple to implement this ♥♥♥♥.
Ive run privat servers for various games and implemented my own serversided anti cheat.
Its so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ simple but nothing you can do when the devs are braindamaged

need a trust system like cs2 for example no rage cheater is buying the battlepass.
and i rather play against legit cheaters than full on rage ones where u cant do ♥♥♥♥ against.
最后由 jewminator 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 21 日 上午 4:41
Gamefreak 2023 年 12 月 21 日 上午 4:46 
Played like 10 games of ranked today and three of them had someone shooting from across the map with perfect accuracy the second a pixel of your player model showed. Good to see the devs are handling the cheater problem!
IHaveNoSoul 2023 年 12 月 21 日 上午 4:49 
引用自 bullet
haven't seen a single hacker yet, I'm playing on SA tho

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2073850/discussions/0/4041481833168184235/
๖ۣۜPanics™ 2023 年 12 月 21 日 上午 5:50 
I don´t get it.
They are clearly skilled enough to develop a good game but they cant implement Easy Anticheat in the right way?
Developing games myself and never did we have such a thing happend before while changing up the runtime variables for EAC, Battleye or even an Ring 0 anti cheat.

There are more than enough resources available where even an inexpierenced developer can find the right way to implement such a system IF he wants to.
Kimosamie<sAp. 2023 年 12 月 21 日 上午 7:21 
引用自 ๖ۣۜPanics™
I don´t get it.
They are clearly skilled enough to develop a good game but they cant implement Easy Anticheat in the right way?
Developing games myself and never did we have such a thing happend before while changing up the runtime variables for EAC, Battleye or even an Ring 0 anti cheat.

There are more than enough resources available where even an inexpierenced developer can find the right way to implement such a system IF he wants to.
EAC is one of the easiest anti cheats to exploit. Easy Anti Cheat will auto ban you if your cheat is detected. This allows cheat makers to know right away if their cheats are detected. When a game is popular there are more eyes on it. Fortnite has this exact same problem. CoD has this issue too. Modern anti cheat software actually makes it easier to make cheats for more popular titles.
最后由 Kimosamie<sAp. 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 21 日 上午 7:21
๖ۣۜPanics™ 2023 年 12 月 21 日 上午 7:42 
引用自 Kimosamie<sAp.
引用自 ๖ۣۜPanics™
I don´t get it.
They are clearly skilled enough to develop a good game but they cant implement Easy Anticheat in the right way?
Developing games myself and never did we have such a thing happend before while changing up the runtime variables for EAC, Battleye or even an Ring 0 anti cheat.

There are more than enough resources available where even an inexpierenced developer can find the right way to implement such a system IF he wants to.
EAC is one of the easiest anti cheats to exploit. Easy Anti Cheat will auto ban you if your cheat is detected. This allows cheat makers to know right away if their cheats are detected. When a game is popular there are more eyes on it. Fortnite has this exact same problem. CoD has this issue too. Modern anti cheat software actually makes it easier to make cheats for more popular titles.

Thats a pretty basic and wrong answer tbh.
EAC has a ton of moduls and ways to implement things like variable scan to detect possible manipulated variables, movement analysis to check if a movement is humanly possible and so on.
We´ve implemented this things in one of the titles with a playerbase ~100k recuring players (yes its not big but big enough that there are hacks) and the detectionrate is around 79% within 5 minutes based with EAC.
Of couse there are more basic aproches possible like seen in FINALS but you can do much more if you want and also pay for the more advanced systems besides EAC.
Never seen an game what uses just one system with more or less absolute non cheating supression.
There are ways to check movement within a specified amount of time even in EAC.
And if you doubt: check UE5 Docs for EAC.
最后由 ๖ۣۜPanics™ 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 21 日 上午 7:43
@Ammo_Wagon 2023 年 12 月 21 日 上午 7:53 
Came across my first cheater today. Aim bot with a pistol from across the map.
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