Heavy is pretty strong

[Netsa]

I'm still in quickplay, but man, heavies are pretty easy-mode. I started with light, and going from light to RPG is like going from an infantry soldier to a loaded tank.

Related, is there a tier list for weapons yet? Heavy has two separate LMGs, but nothing has any stats listed in-game.

[GovernmentMuffins]

Цитата допису Arno Dübel:

in a team sense the heavy is your tank/damage dealer the medium class should support the heavy and the lighter class come from behind not just solo run in a fight

I'm not sure most teams have a 1H/1M/1L comp, though. They definitely don't in casual, at least. I kind of wonder how the meta's going to end up in ranked. [/quote]

Currently its 3 Meds constantly healing/reviving each other

[Netsa]

Цитата допису GovernmentMuffins:

Currently its 3 Meds constantly healing/reviving each other

Oh, that sounds "fun".

[Pontianak Tamer]

Цитата допису Netsa:

Цитата допису GovernmentMuffins:

Currently its 3 Meds constantly healing/reviving each other

Oh, that sounds "fun". :csdsick:

I'm not sure if theres any changes made to the AK, but now with decent aim it is an absolute shredder

[zvein]

heavy shotgun is op, it also need more spread, that ♥♥♥♥ can kill so far a light build

[Knee]

Цитата допису Trashpanda:

Цитата допису Arno Dübel:

I think that alot of players don´t really get hat you are not supposed to kill a heavy as a light class just sprinting on them... it´s good the way it is but you need to stop thinking as a solo player it´s a heavily team based game... in a team sense the heavy is your tank/damage dealer the medium class should support the heavy and the lighter class come from behind not just solo run in a fight. ofc the heavy get´s more kills thats it´s whole point but heres the thing - this game is not about kills... it´s about getting the objective the cashout as a team... in the end if I win and only got two kills who cares that wasn´t the point anyway xD

the whole point of the heavy is being strong.

You do understand that NOT A SINGLE game in modern day has made it as a team game? If you want this game to be alive next year it needs to start focusing MORE and MORE on single player performance. You can't trust randoms and 99.99999% of the player base will not have a premade team meaning either change or die. The devs have been told this since BETA to fix their team focus to more solo focus so we can actually enjoy the game (even if we play with randoms) or the game will simply die.

What possessed you to say something so wrong...?

[Arno Dübel]

Цитата допису zvein:

heavy shotgun is op, it also need more spread, that ♥♥♥♥ can kill so far a light build

that´s the point of it tho... the light is supposed to be vulnerable it would be op otherwise... the shotgun is okay

[---]

Heavy is the only thing that can reasonably "counter" lights (invis + 2hko shotguns, etc), heavy is in a fine place overall I think and needs to be that way unless light gets adjusted in some way.
In most of my matches, light is over represented (at least 4/9 players in quick cash games) and a light player is usually top fragging (though their team often doesn't win).
I would love to see the data to check if my anecdotal observation is supported.

[Pontianak Tamer]

Цитата допису Arno Dübel:

Цитата допису zvein:

heavy shotgun is op, it also need more spread, that ♥♥♥♥ can kill so far a light build

that´s the point of it tho... the light is supposed to be vulnerable it would be op otherwise... the shotgun is okay

The Magazine capacity could do some work thou, 16 freaking shots

It makes the rest of heavy weapons pretty pointless with the recoil and weaker dmg

[Arno Dübel]

Цитата допису Pontianak Tamer:

Цитата допису Arno Dübel:

that´s the point of it tho... the light is supposed to be vulnerable it would be op otherwise... the shotgun is okay

The Magazine capacity could do some work thou, 16 freaking shots

It makes the rest of heavy weapons pretty pointless with the recoil and weaker dmg

it has 4 shots... then when you need to spin the mag it´s mostly lost if you didn´t finish the job by then it´s fine. got me killed so often lol

[Pontianak Tamer]

Цитата допису Arno Dübel:

Цитата допису Pontianak Tamer:

The Magazine capacity could do some work thou, 16 freaking shots

It makes the rest of heavy weapons pretty pointless with the recoil and weaker dmg

it has 4 shots... then when you need to spin the mag it´s mostly lost if you didn´t finish the job by then it´s fine. got me killed so often lol

Honestly they could tank long enough, its just a single 0.3 second weapon ♥♥♥♥ for the 4 shot