Game turned out to be P2W

[Tuuka]

lmao who would have expected form a free to play?

[p0rter69]

i think your definition of -pay-to-win is quite simple.
in the store you can buy for real cash:
-ingame money
-storage
-and some meaningless items. (case , keyring) (which you can get though missions too)

but yeah totally PAY TO WIN #ironic smile

[Cartermatic]

Originally posted by p0rter69:

i think your definition of -pay-to-win is quite simple.
in the store you can buy for real cash:
-ingame money
-storage
-and some meaningless items. (case , keyring) (which you can get though missions too)

but yeah totally PAY TO WIN #ironic smile

you can buy literally any type of gear, weapons, ammo, any key used to enter rooms, you have to pay to chat, own a secure container, post more auctions on the market.. the list literally goes on and on. you are an absurd human.

and its not about being better than the p2w players to steal their gear. if you put two equally skilled players, one paying, one not. Through time, the p2w player will come out on top and bankrupt the other player 100% of the time

[Harambe]

Originally posted by ✪ Cartermatic:

Originally posted by p0rter69:

i think your definition of -pay-to-win is quite simple.
in the store you can buy for real cash:
-ingame money
-storage
-and some meaningless items. (case , keyring) (which you can get though missions too)

but yeah totally PAY TO WIN #ironic smile

you can buy literally any type of gear, weapons, ammo, any key used to enter rooms, you have to pay to chat, own a secure container, post more auctions on the market.. the list literally goes on and on. you are an absurd human.

and its not about being better than the p2w players to steal their gear. if you put two equally skilled players, one paying, one not. Through time, the p2w player will come out on top and bankrupt the other player 100% of the time

pay to chat? what does this even mean? you can talk directly to your team mates with voice and through text chat free

[Cartermatic]

Originally posted by Harambe:

Originally posted by ✪ Cartermatic:

you can buy literally any type of gear, weapons, ammo, any key used to enter rooms, you have to pay to chat, own a secure container, post more auctions on the market.. the list literally goes on and on. you are an absurd human.

and its not about being better than the p2w players to steal their gear. if you put two equally skilled players, one paying, one not. Through time, the p2w player will come out on top and bankrupt the other player 100% of the time

pay to chat? what does this even mean? you can talk directly to your team mates with voice and through text chat free

you have to pay to use text chat in any public channel, you can only voip and whisper your friends for free. its odd thats the thing you choose to criticize about the above message. the thing that is the least offensive towards western audiences. but alas, carry on

[Harambe]

Originally posted by ✪ Cartermatic:

Originally posted by Harambe:

pay to chat? what does this even mean? you can talk directly to your team mates with voice and through text chat free

you have to pay to use text chat in any public channel, you can only voip and whisper your friends for free. its odd thats the thing you choose to criticize about the above message. the thing that is the least offensive towards western audiences. but alas, carry on

what are you talking about? Im clearly lost. there is a "world" chat where you talk to everyone. or are you referring to something else?

[Cartermatic]

Originally posted by Harambe:

Originally posted by ✪ Cartermatic:

you have to pay to use text chat in any public channel, you can only voip and whisper your friends for free. its odd thats the thing you choose to criticize about the above message. the thing that is the least offensive towards western audiences. but alas, carry on

what are you talking about? Im clearly lost. there is a "world" chat where you talk to everyone. or are you referring to something else?

yes the world chat, you need to pay to use it. regardless, its a mute point and part of the argument. the entirety of the rest of it holds so much more weight

[Harambe]

Originally posted by ✪ Cartermatic:

Originally posted by Harambe:

what are you talking about? Im clearly lost. there is a "world" chat where you talk to everyone. or are you referring to something else?

yes the world chat, you need to pay to use it. regardless, its a mute point and part of the argument. the entirety of the rest of it holds so much more weight

why are you paying for it? you can type and send text within the world chat for free. Ive been using it since day one for free

[[V]ordo]

I would much rather the players payed the devs directly instead of them paying cheaters for carry services

[꧁⛧PHILODOX⛧꧂]

Who would've thought that a mobile game port to pc is p2w

[Strid]

Anyone able to explain how the monetization system in this games creates a disadvantage for free-to-play players?

[Cartermatic]

Originally posted by Strid:

Anyone able to explain how the monetization system in this games creates a disadvantage for free-to-play players?

i feel like ive said it a million times already. you can buy literally anything with real money, you can start with the best keycards at level 3 from p2w, the best gear, the best ammo, EVERYTHING. you get a safe container, key holder etc.

on TOP of that all, if you put the same skilled p2w player versus same skilled free to play player, after a number of raids, the p2w player will always bankrupt the f2p player, always without fail if you put equally skilled players against each other. that in essence, is pay to win. just cuz you can mix skills and kill a lower skilled p2w player and take his gear does not excuse the game from being p2w

just because you cannot see the p2w player opening the doors or maybe they dont kill you that raid because they got the juice and wanna extract, does not mean they arent paying to win. sure, that specific scenario didnt AFFECT you at that point in time, but the ripple effects and the effects of running into p2w players with better gear than you will consistently, over time, result in the f2p player losing bank value.

on top of that, the players able to buy stuff off the market will in turn increase the economy prices of everything on the market, which is BAD. the effects of that on the market are always negative for the player with less stash value. You think "well I will be able to sell items for more then", which is lacking a basic understanding of how economics and stock based selling systems work. In the end, it always screws the smaller person out of money and gives it back to the whales, its worked like this in almost every financial marketplace ever, in a game or real life. to defend these types of practice is asinine to me... idk if yall just never went to college or lack fundamental math skills to understand the way money and life works... but it is BAFFLING

[Knowsome]

a chinese game developer banked by tencent doing free to play.

who would've guessed?

[☣[GER]Dubtoxic☣]

yep, deinstalled it again. They don`t missed an opportunity to monetize everything. Want a bigger safe container? pay - more stash space? pay. Everything you can imagine being monetized - sure will be monetized. And the people who are defending this: You are the reason why this will work and be a succes.

[p0rter69]

love the game. i payd a million euros and have everything now.
oh wait i didnt . but i have everything...crazy

[☣[GER]Dubtoxic☣]

Originally posted by p0rter69:

love the game. i payd a million euros and have everything now.
oh wait i didnt . but i have everything...crazy

Let me asking you something.. what is your reason to post on EVERY topic that is against your holy grail. Do you get paid for it? or do your parent work in this company? tell me.. it is quite hard for me to understand how unreflected and stupid your answers are. For someone telling everyone how great this game is you spend your time on forums di*kfighting, cant be so good as you tell or?