no wipes? the reason why tarkov even works is because of wipes.

[Space]

or am i misinformed

[BlackWolf9988]

the reason why tarkov has wipes is because it has god awful balancing. im curious aswell how it will turn out, maybe the go down the route of prestiging like in marauders where you get more stash space or skins like it is in hunt showdown.

seems like armor doesnt help that much anyway in this game, so low TTK will be fine in late game.

[Alastor]

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

the reason why tarkov has wipes is because it has god awful balancing. im curious aswell how it will turn out, maybe the go down the route of prestiging like in marauders where you get more stash space or skins like it is in hunt showdown.

they don't care if you want to get good as the other players you have to pay this is a free2play game they gonna put hell of pay2win microtransactions in this game i bet

[BlackWolf9988]

Originally posted by Alastor:

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

the reason why tarkov has wipes is because it has god awful balancing. im curious aswell how it will turn out, maybe the go down the route of prestiging like in marauders where you get more stash space or skins like it is in hunt showdown.

they don't care if you want to get good as the other players you have to pay this is a free2play game they gonna put hell of pay2win microtransactions in this game i bet

we will see, valorant doesnt really have p2w and its also by tencent. i heard it only gives you the secure container on the mobile version which could be considered p2w which is like 5$ a month, ironically still far cheaper in the long run compared to EFT EoD edition.

[4th]

MMOs have ways of balancing their economies over the long term.

[Alastor]

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

Originally posted by Alastor:

they don't care if you want to get good as the other players you have to pay this is a free2play game they gonna put hell of pay2win microtransactions in this game i bet

we will see, valorant doesnt really have p2w and its also by tencent. i heard it only gives you the secure container on the mobile version which could be considered p2w which is like 5$ a month, ironically still far cheaper in the long run compared to EFT EoD edition.

go check the price yourself it cost like 11 bucks you also can buy kits with weapons and armor. and you can buy game money with real money you sound like nikita who said it is not dlc just because you want it to be dlc

it is pay2win for sure if they do it like in the mobileversion and you can see the secure container have a expire date so wen can guess it will be like in the mobile version

[RifRafJonesy]

The wipes are for 2 reasons.
1 - its EA and wipes are needed to clear out stored items because of changes.
2 - it makes the P2W part of EFT mean more, encouraging you to buy the higher end package. If you get all your package gear back every wipe, its an immediate advantage over those that don't.

[Bruno_Santo]

Ppl who says tarkov only wipes because it’s in EA are delusional. Games like this one NEED a wipe system to survive. It’s obviously not like an MMO that can survive without it. Just look at what happened to the cycle after they decided to go with no wipes… dead and abandoned in a few months later.

[Localmind]

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

the reason why tarkov has wipes is because it has god awful balancing. im curious aswell how it will turn out, maybe the go down the route of prestiging like in marauders where you get more stash space or skins like it is in hunt showdown.

seems like armor doesnt help that much anyway in this game, so low TTK will be fine in late game.

I never have played, never will play games that do "hard resets". I don't see the purpose.

Like you mention Hunt: Show down, and Marauders do it right. Prestiging system I'm all for. Not losing my guns and attachements every so often.

So I'm hoping it's one of those games that go the way of the two above. I never even knew Tarkov did it on purpose. I thought it was for the reason of early access. As that's reasonable, when games go from alpha to beta, early access, full release, yes most of the time progress is wiped/reset it makes sense. But once it comes out, it's simple, I want to keep my stuff. Instead of resetting the same things, add more content.

[FrozenYogurt]

Originally posted by Space:

or am i misinformed

Just copying here my comment from the other similar thread:

Gladly, the developers on Reddit confirmed there won't be wipes because they don't want to alienate the fanbase that invests a lot of time in the game. As pointed out above, many prominent games in this and adjacent genres do not have wipes and are doing just fine (Hunt, etc.) The wipes are also the reason I quit EFT - as a man with responsibilities, I can't afford to waste hundreds of hours to get what I have already got because the devs are incapable of coming up with a progression system that would last.

[InsightKnight]

Tarkov wipes because Nikita is too braindead to design a proper end game loop. Deleting the server master folder is not a progression system.

[InsightKnight]

Originally posted by FrozenYogurt:

Originally posted by Space:

or am i misinformed

Just copying here my comment from the other similar thread:

Gladly, the developers on Reddit confirmed there won't be wipes because they don't want to alienate the fanbase that invests a lot of time in the game. As pointed out above, many prominent games in this and adjacent genres do not have wipes and are doing just fine (Hunt, etc.) The wipes are also the reason I quit EFT - as a man with responsibilities, I can't afford to waste hundreds of hours to get what I have already got because the devs are incapable of coming up with a progression system that would last.

The real reason there won't be wipes is because players won't spend money on items that will get deleted. It goes against thier P2W business model.

[Quagimus Decimus]

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

the reason why tarkov has wipes is because it has god awful balancing. im curious aswell how it will turn out, maybe the go down the route of prestiging like in marauders where you get more stash space or skins like it is in hunt showdown.

seems like armor doesnt help that much anyway in this game, so low TTK will be fine in late game.

awful balancing? how so? doesn't matter how godly geared anyone is in the game. One well thrown grenade solves that issue. (anyone can buy them at any level. You can flash bang people into oblivion cause most people don't wear proper protection either.
I can go into a late season and still clap kids with low level ammo access. It sounds to me much more of a skill issue. You should remind yourself tarkov is about headshot meta. If you're spending your whole time aiming for the torso you're gonna cry about balancing issues. Early game - MP5, burst, pst ammo, aim for head... win.

[smokratez]

Originally posted by Bruno_Santo:

Ppl who says tarkov only wipes because it’s in EA are delusional. Games like this one NEED a wipe system to survive. It’s obviously not like an MMO that can survive without it. Just look at what happened to the cycle after they decided to go with no wipes… dead and abandoned in a few months later.

cycle died because of cheaters and devs kept making changes nobody asked for

[Quagimus Decimus]

Originally posted by smokratez:

Originally posted by Bruno_Santo:

Ppl who says tarkov only wipes because it’s in EA are delusional. Games like this one NEED a wipe system to survive. It’s obviously not like an MMO that can survive without it. Just look at what happened to the cycle after they decided to go with no wipes… dead and abandoned in a few months later.

cycle died because of cheaters and devs kept making changes nobody asked for

Cycle died because the game was popular and people cheat in popular games.
A lot of those changes were needed, and some have been issues for a long time, like the god awful sound issues. Still needs heavy work ahead, but it's getting there. There's a lot of core issues the game needs to fix, but it's future is likely that of a pve game.

[smokratez]

Originally posted by Quagimus Decimus:

Originally posted by smokratez:

cycle died because of cheaters and devs kept making changes nobody asked for

Cycle died because the game was popular and people cheat in popular games.
A lot of those changes were needed, and some have been issues for a long time, like the god awful sound issues. Still needs heavy work ahead, but it's getting there. There's a lot of core issues the game needs to fix, but it's future is likely that of a pve game.

All they had to do was not make solos with white gear, go against trios with purple gear.