The economy doen't make any sense...

[Warelieus]

Right?

[deadmerc]

Yeah I am wondering if I am doing something wrong like I dont know what to loot or something. I feel like I cant make any money and I have been getting out of raids with loot and everything. I just built a mosin with a scope and nothing else and its 16k lol. Ammo costs a ton for any mid range stuff, like 120 for ak midrange ammo is like 8k. I have never played the mobile game but this reeks of trying to get people to spend real money.

[Warelieus]

Originally posted by deadmerc:

Yeah I am wondering if I am doing something wrong like I dont know what to loot or something. I feel like I cant make any money and I have been getting out of raids with loot and everything. I just built a mosin with a scope and nothing else and its 16k lol. Ammo costs a ton for any mid range stuff, like 120 for ak midrange ammo is like 8k. I have never played the mobile game but this reeks of trying to get people to spend real money.

Yeah, I'm trying to get "good" lood, but there isn't any. And if you get "good" loot, it's like 10k... As you said, the guns andd ammo is 10 times higher.

[Sale]

The problem is that everyone specs their kit in the range of 130k or more straight from the start and then die 1-3 times in a row and loose everything. I would actually prefer if this game starts you with almost no money so that pistols and early shotguns/SMGs are actually usable/viable for normal non no-life people. Then you could easily extract a few times with scav AKs/Mosins and Minis and slowly mod them so that they are more usable. Also everyone I see keeps using the 1k+ per bullet ammo from the start, running 3 30 round mags with that ammo makes you poor in couple sprays :D

[NICEWALL]

Yes, I described this problem in detail in my post, you can vote for it in a comment or in some other way so that the developers notice

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2073620/discussions/0/6678353721815387998/

[DodoTheBirb]

Best money making is from some of the rare yellow junks or ammo from lockdown+ AIs and of course from killing other players for their gear. I think the loot is designed this way because their monetization is from selling in-game currency, at least that is what they do on their mobile version.

[JackieDaytona]

If its trying to copy the real world economy id say its doing well its a complete ♥♥♥♥ show

[NICEWALL]

Originally posted by JackieDaytona:

If its trying to copy the real world economy id say its doing well its a complete ♥♥♥♥ show

You need to try harder to get at least one Steam reward in the form of a clown.

[Culphy]

no u just dont understand its all gears towards pvp all the value in raids in in killing other players and taking there ammo and guns. this is what drives the pvp and its exactly how they intended it both here and on mobile

[InsightKnight]

Originally posted by Culphy:

no u just dont understand its all gears towards pvp all the value in raids in in killing other players and taking there ammo and guns. this is what drives the pvp and its exactly how they intended it both here and on mobile

No. YOU don't understand that the entire game is built around money sink mechanics so players are naturally incentivised to BUY KOEN. There are like 6 major mechanics that take/limit your ability to make money easily. That is the intention. Your 150k kit I can gank from you with a 400 koen AP slug and I do it all day. The PvP balance is completely busted.

[nomadafilms]

Originally posted by Culphy:

no u just dont understand its all gears towards pvp all the value in raids in in killing other players and taking there ammo and guns. this is what drives the pvp and its exactly how they intended it both here and on mobile

Brother, the pvp in the game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ incredible. It really is, but you can not pvp well if you dont have the money to. The bare minimum for pvp is like 300k every single time, and if you are going solo or duo you will die most of the time. you will eventually run out of money and be forced to run farm on normal for DAYS straight to make a couple of millions back.

[KUMAco]

i never pay money for this game but i have over 60million koen.
i'm looking for way to use(or waste) koen.
if u cant play this game without real money u sholda play APEX or something.
a advice for u.
DO NOT USE REAL MONEY, USE UR BRAIN(if u have it).

[Zylon]

Originally posted by Sale:

The problem is that everyone specs their kit in the range of 130k or more straight from the start and then die 1-3 times in a row and loose everything. I would actually prefer if this game starts you with almost no money so that pistols and early shotguns/SMGs are actually usable/viable for normal non no-life people. Then you could easily extract a few times with scav AKs/Mosins and Minis and slowly mod them so that they are more usable. Also everyone I see keeps using the 1k+ per bullet ammo from the start, running 3 30 round mags with that ammo makes you poor in couple sprays :D

I agree with this. players are advised to make a kit that is cheaper, then what they bring back on average. It is silly to buy expensive bullets. Play normal mode until they amassed a good amount of Koen. they do not need any T4 or higher bullets on normal.

Shoot out their legs with cheap flesh damaging bullets and even heavy armor players will go down. I played for slightly less then a month and got 18mill in my stash.

Cheap loadouts are fun for me, in a game where you go down so quickly you need to use tactics and your smarts. This is not COD. Players need a different mindset in this game.