ACE Kernel level Anti Cheat

[Sax]

Be warned that this uses ACE (Anti-Cheat Expert), which is a kernel level anti cheat made by Tencent and remains on your PC even after you uninstall this game.

[Modda]

They use ACE which can actually catch DMA cheats, which is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ huge. Hacks are never going to go away, but using a bleeding edge AC is a damn good place to start.

I can tell you have no idea what DMA cheats are or why it’s huge that ACE catches it. I guess the more it’s talked about the more people will learn what it takes to combat them.

The anti cheat is working, one redditor has been watching the cheating forums and posting pics on reddit the cheat makers thought they patched their cheats boom detected 30 mins later they were detected that was earlier today and the hackers and cheaters they said it will be few days till they fix their cheats so this weekend will be bit nicer . Don't believe me go look the pics are on reddit to see

[Roy0441]

hackers have already flooded the game. max lvl 6 gear wallbanging though everything.

[Wiscobetic]

Wish they had a tinfoil paranoia award for these posts.

[SpeedForc3]

Автор сообщения: Modda 🠉🠊🠋🠋🠋

They use ACE which can actually catch DMA cheats, which is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ huge. Hacks are never going to go away, but using a bleeding edge AC is a damn good place to start.

I can tell you have no idea what DMA cheats are or why it’s huge that ACE catches it. I guess the more it’s talked about the more people will learn what it takes to combat them.

The anti cheat is working, one redditor has been watching the cheating forums and posting pics on reddit the cheat makers thought they patched their cheats boom detected 30 mins later they were detected that was earlier today and the hackers and cheaters they said it will be few days till they fix their cheats so this weekend will be bit nicer :starshiptrooper:. Don't believe me go look the pics are on reddit to see :stok:

no the anti-cheat is clearly not working. stop being a shill for a company. especially a chinese one.

[CookieJarvis]

Most anti cheats are kernal level. The knowledge of some people is astounding these days.

[mr potatoe]

Arena Breakout: Infinite has it listed under "Detected Technologies" as "AntiCheat.AntiCheatExpert" on SteamDB:

https://steamdb.info/app/2073620/

https://steamdb.info/tech/AntiCheat/AntiCheatExpert/

ACE = https://anticheatexpert.com

[ZeroGiven]

Автор сообщения: CookieJarvis

Most anti cheats are kernal level. The knowledge of some people is astounding these days.

Yeah, I see bigots trying to use the "kernel level" boogeyman but just showing their ignorance to the world, constantly.

[LuL]

Who runs ace anti cheat ? i want to know the CEOs names and owners names

[CryonicSuspension]

Vampire: Bloodhunt wanted to use EAC ( easy anti cheat, which is what DBD uses - Dead By Daylight ) the problem was Vampire: Bloodhunt's publisher was Tencent. Tencent wanted Vampire: Bloodhunt to use ACE ( anti cheat expert ), because Tencent created ACE, so it would be essentially free for them. The only problem is that Tencent's ACE doesn't work. The game got hacked to death. That's why the game had a rapid death curve, shortly after release.

Vampire: Bloodhunt removed Tencent's ACE and installed EAC ( easy anti cheat ). Game still ends up dying ( I have no idea why - I gave up on the game during the first death curve ).

Check out the double curve:

https://steamdb.info/app/760160/charts/#max

[ZeroGiven]

Автор сообщения: Saxony

Be warned that this uses ACE (Anti-Cheat Expert), which is a kernel level anti cheat made by Tencent and remains on your PC even after you uninstall this game.

Any anti-cheat worth using is kernel level. More proof that gamers tend to be sheep.

[123]

i was enjoying the game for awhile but my last 10 raids in a row I got killed by suspecious players that are not even level 30 yet and they are my rank already, even tho in many replays u can't acuse them of cheating, they play with soo much cofidence like they got all the info they need it doesnt seem legit, i lost soo much hard work im not enjoying the experience anymore, its rather frustating to keep rekiting going in and dieing to someone that is hacking, u cant win unless you have a premade team of friends or you cheat back.

Their anticheat bans people but it doesn't change the experience is you get cheaters all the time regardless, for someone like me playing legit it makes me not wanna play anymore

[AeRoTR]

Correct I understand the cheaters mostly with huge information they have in a small time window. Also one good way is, you can see them looking at you exactly where you are for a brief second, behind cover, hill or wall, but pretend to look other places and zoom you when just needed. It is mostly in human nature to glimpse at the threat even for second, they just can not prevent doing it :) even if they try to, it is so obvious when their reticle is exactly on you for a time, what is the odd, in a lets say 180 degrees sides and 30 degrees up and down window, they manage to find you behind that wall or hill, dead centered for a second.

Yes the ACE is doing a poor job, they say it is kernel but why is it so bad at its job, does it have other purposes?

[Styles]

yep and im seeing hackers that i have reported get banned left and right so wish we had an even more intrusive anti cheat. What you trying to hide ?

[Hoak]

While kernel level drivers on Windows running in Ring 0 may offer more efficacy in cheat intervention for some kinds of cheats and exploits; it's far from 'bleeding edge' or even state of the art, as it's an approach that's been in use on and off for twenty five years. There's absolutely nothing new here other than Microsoft had originally intended that there would be NO kernel level drivers allowed to run on Windows 10 or 11, walked this back, and now, because of the nature, scale, and unrecoverable damage that can be executed with kernel level drivers, the commercial PC industry is lobbying Government to require Microsoft to go back to the original plan...

The problem with kernel level drivers is they actually offer the means in Ring 0 to access literally everything, including complete control of your PC, in the worst case even modifying your BIOS in ways that can not be undone or recovered by re-FLASHing, you need to desolder and replace the BIOS EPROM. If you want a real horror show recitation of some of what's been done through kernel level drivers on Windows I recommend listing to just the Insecurity Corner segment of the PC Perspective Podcast[pcper.com]...

Uglier still, the driver itself, and i/o traffic through it can be used by smart Hackers to create these worst case exploits. A Hacker with the time and talent can potentially (because he has root access to everything through Ring 0), create a cheat, that make the person being exploited appear to be the one doing the cheating, getting them banned. This isn't theory -- on older more easy to exploit games when Windows ran wide open in Ring 0 this was done a multitude of times.

I'm all for better cheat protection, and in an ideal world, with a signed Ring 0 driver, end to end encryption of everything, and an air tight ecosystem for such a driver -- this might actually work to a limited extent. In the real world, we have a driver that can't be uninstalled, without reinstalling Windows, weak driver security, a backdoor to Ring 0 on every PC it's installed on until Windows is reinstalled, the very tools Hackers need to create and run some of the worst exploits ever encountered that can't be removed without hardware repair. This is not a best case approach or even a good one for now... Some of us can afford to throw a PC or two away to play with things, a lot more people can't...

[Strat Man]

At the moment the only way to really stop the cheating is for private servers with admins to police the scum bag cheaters.