Are you happy about the Romeo & Juliet Co-Op Only requierement?

[Zargay]

I am not, not at all, for obvious reasons...

For all of the people giving the "free" argument, it being free doesn't prevent it from being critized as it cuts solo player from fresh content for at least 6 months until the new major update (if there is one), we're talking about two WHOLE characters.

Whats your opinion? Let the devs know it, raise your voice so maybe they'll tweak them so we can play them as well in solo.

[DeMasked]

Solo player just got fresh content from the nightmare's update. I'm fine with this unique co-op character.

[Haiti]

I will have to say I'm pretty disappointed. I understand the appeal, but there definitely should be some compromise between people who want to play solo, and those wanting to play co-op.

They took some inspiration from Cho'Gall, from Heroes of the Storm, a character with two heads that requires two people to play. This is a fun concept. I don't really see the need to co-op Romeo and Juliet, for example, what are the features in their kit that demands they be two player?

I just hope for some clarity and if they can, take feedback.

[Kappa]

I am fine with that.

On the one hand because I tend to play co-op only, and on the other hand because while they started by saying that every new hero would have been a paid DLC, they decided to release the first one, 2 heroes that can be only played in co-op together, for free.

Waiting to see what unique perks that work altogether they have.

[DFS Optimum]

The best thing about this game is the diversity of characters. They're clearly going for something unique by making a co-op only character, and I can't wait to see it

[Mixed Herbs]

Yep, it's a pretty cool take. People complaining about the lack of content being fed to them when the game has already hit 1.0 is extremely entitled and self-conceited. People experiencing the older era of games would never last. It's not that difficult to find one other person to play with.

[ZexxCrine]

its not about difficulty to play in co-op. this may shock you but some people actually want and choose to play games single player. then some of those people are also actively choosing NOT to play co-op because they don't want to play co-op. its not that hard of a concept to grasp. we acknowledge introverts exist but introverted gamers don't exist somehow?

[Mixed Herbs]

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

its not about difficulty to play in co-op. this may shock you but some people actually want and choose to play games single player. then some of those people are also actively choosing NOT to play co-op because they don't want to play co-op. its not that hard of a concept to grasp. we acknowledge introverts exist but introverted gamers don't exist somehow?

I am extremely introverted so I get where you are coming from but guess what, the world doesn't revolve around us. It's their addition and idea to a game that's pretty novel. An addition might I add that they don't even need to do considering the game is fully out AND it's free. Maybe instead of just turtling forever, go outside your comfort zone and grow.

[Bunny Massacre]

Originally posted by Mixed Herbs:

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

its not about difficulty to play in co-op. this may shock you but some people actually want and choose to play games single player. then some of those people are also actively choosing NOT to play co-op because they don't want to play co-op. its not that hard of a concept to grasp. we acknowledge introverts exist but introverted gamers don't exist somehow?

I am extremely introverted so I get where you are coming from but guess what, the world doesn't revolve around us. It's their addition and idea to a game that's pretty novel. An addition might I add that they don't even need to do considering the game is fully out AND it's free. Maybe instead of just turtling forever, go outside your comfort zone and grow.

You seem awful, and you're contradicting yourself.
This: "I am extremely introverted so I get where you are coming from"
Completely contradicts this: "Maybe instead of just turtling forever, go outside your comfort zone and grow".
Why should anyone take anything you say seriously? That's a question for the ages.

[ZexxCrine]

Originally posted by Mixed Herbs:

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

its not about difficulty to play in co-op. this may shock you but some people actually want and choose to play games single player. then some of those people are also actively choosing NOT to play co-op because they don't want to play co-op. its not that hard of a concept to grasp. we acknowledge introverts exist but introverted gamers don't exist somehow?

I am extremely introverted so I get where you are coming from but guess what, the world doesn't revolve around us. It's their addition and idea to a game that's pretty novel. An addition might I add that they don't even need to do considering the game is fully out AND it's free. Maybe instead of just turtling forever, go outside your comfort zone and grow.

I am not your people. do not lump me in with you. I cannot know if you represent me and I do not care if you do. I can go out of my comfort zone by playing games that are in genres I haven't tried. with such a wealth of games releasing and going on sale at all times why would I waste my time on a game that doesn't cater to me when one elsewhere does? I am the consumer same as you and as a consumer I get to decide what my time and money are worth. it is not worth my time to return to a game with no new content for me to play. this thread asked my opinion so I gave it. I don't need your permission to have my opinion just because you find this concept to be an interesting one. I don't. we disagree, and that's ok. but you disagreeing with me does not give you a platform to preach I should change my life or ways I enjoy my free time just as I have no authority to dictate how you should spend yours.

but we agree on something: they definitely didn't need to do this.

[Mixed Herbs]

Originally posted by Bunny Massacre:

Originally posted by Mixed Herbs:

I am extremely introverted so I get where you are coming from but guess what, the world doesn't revolve around us. It's their addition and idea to a game that's pretty novel. An addition might I add that they don't even need to do considering the game is fully out AND it's free. Maybe instead of just turtling forever, go outside your comfort zone and grow.

You seem awful, and you're contradicting yourself.
This: "I am extremely introverted so I get where you are coming from"
Completely contradicts this: "Maybe instead of just turtling forever, go outside your comfort zone and grow".
Why should anyone take anything you say seriously? That's a question for the ages.

Breaking out of one's comfort zone and making new connections is an essential part of life, nothing what I said is contradictory. Introversion isn't inherently bad but what often happens is you refuse to ever try and make new connections. Quite frankly having a character that is defined as needing a co-op partner is a pretty great way to branch out. Just because I understand where they come from means I cannot say it's bad to just turtle?

[Mixed Herbs]

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

Originally posted by Mixed Herbs:

I am extremely introverted so I get where you are coming from but guess what, the world doesn't revolve around us. It's their addition and idea to a game that's pretty novel. An addition might I add that they don't even need to do considering the game is fully out AND it's free. Maybe instead of just turtling forever, go outside your comfort zone and grow.

I am not your people. do not lump me in with you. I cannot know if you represent me and I do not care if you do. I can go out of my comfort zone by playing games that are in genres I haven't tried. with such a wealth of games releasing and going on sale at all times why would I waste my time on a game that doesn't cater to me when one elsewhere does? I am the consumer same as you and as a consumer I get to decide what my time and money are worth. it is not worth my time to return to a game with no new content for me to play. this thread asked my opinion so I gave it. I don't need your permission to have my opinion just because you find this concept to be an interesting one. I don't. we disagree, and that's ok. but you disagreeing with me does not give you a platform to preach I should change my life or ways I enjoy my free time just as I have no authority to dictate how you should spend yours.

but we agree on something: they definitely didn't need to do this.

You literally said you were an introvert and I made the statement that I too am one, so apologies if I come off as abrasive but I never once made the statement that we are of the same people? If anything you are actively trying to stifle creativity but wanting them to tweak and would have to make pretty large changes to what is a pretty novel idea. Why even bother making the post if you don't want to waste time on the game since this update doesn't cater to you? The grievance you bring up of it being purely co-op has already been well spoken for within the reveal discussion. Almost for certain the next hero after this one would be a single player one and there is already a plethora of SP ones.

[Mixed Herbs]

Originally posted by Mixed Herbs:

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

I am not your people. do not lump me in with you. I cannot know if you represent me and I do not care if you do. I can go out of my comfort zone by playing games that are in genres I haven't tried. with such a wealth of games releasing and going on sale at all times why would I waste my time on a game that doesn't cater to me when one elsewhere does? I am the consumer same as you and as a consumer I get to decide what my time and money are worth. it is not worth my time to return to a game with no new content for me to play. this thread asked my opinion so I gave it. I don't need your permission to have my opinion just because you find this concept to be an interesting one. I don't. we disagree, and that's ok. but you disagreeing with me does not give you a platform to preach I should change my life or ways I enjoy my free time just as I have no authority to dictate how you should spend yours.

but we agree on something: they definitely didn't need to do this.

You literally said you were an introvert and I made the statement that I too am one, so apologies if I come off as abrasive. If anything you are actively trying to stifle creativity but wanting them to tweak and would have to make pretty large changes to what is a pretty novel idea. Why even bother making the post if you don't want to waste time on the game since this update doesn't cater to you? The grievance you bring up of it being purely co-op has already been well spoken for within the reveal discussion. Almost for certain the next hero after this one would be a single player one and there is already a plethora of SP ones.

[ZexxCrine]

Originally posted by Mixed Herbs:

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

I am not your people. do not lump me in with you. I cannot know if you represent me and I do not care if you do. I can go out of my comfort zone by playing games that are in genres I haven't tried. with such a wealth of games releasing and going on sale at all times why would I waste my time on a game that doesn't cater to me when one elsewhere does? I am the consumer same as you and as a consumer I get to decide what my time and money are worth. it is not worth my time to return to a game with no new content for me to play. this thread asked my opinion so I gave it. I don't need your permission to have my opinion just because you find this concept to be an interesting one. I don't. we disagree, and that's ok. but you disagreeing with me does not give you a platform to preach I should change my life or ways I enjoy my free time just as I have no authority to dictate how you should spend yours.

but we agree on something: they definitely didn't need to do this.

You literally said you were an introvert and I made the statement that I too am one, so apologies if I come off as abrasive but I never once made the statement that we are of the same people? If anything you are actively trying to stifle creativity but wanting them to tweak and would have to make pretty large changes to what is a pretty novel idea. Why even bother making the post if you don't want to waste time on the game since this update doesn't cater to you? The grievance you bring up of it being purely co-op has already been well spoken for within the reveal discussion. Almost for certain the next hero after this one would be a single player one and there is already a plethora of SP ones.

every introverted person is not a unified front. clearly we have some differences. it wasn't a very successful idea in heroes of the storm and that game was multiplayer focused so I have no idea why anyone would think the idea would go over better here just because its novel. why make the post? the post asked for opinions did it not? If I made a post saying "how does everyone feel about hats?" and you say "I don't like hats" should I then respond "why even post if you don't like hats?" also by that same logic you shouldn't post positively about it because people have already expressed some positivity for it.

where did I say I wanted them to tweak it? furthermore where did I say that they weren't allowed to do it? let's not invent arguments to have. also as long as we are clarifying things that were actually said, nowhere in my first post did I say I was introverted so I didn't "literally" say I was

[Shard of time]

well this discusion flew off the rails.

in regards to the OPs question, originaly to me it seamed rather questionable and unjustified, but after a bunch of times thinking about it, i dont mind it, its just a price devs have to pay to realise the design.

what can they have that requires coop lock? oh well, heres a few potential ones:

• passives that are tied to having a teammate close by, like "you/they deal 25% more damage if a teammate is close by", or an active boost that you can only be given to a teammate
  
• abilities that revolve around teammates, for example something like marci's jump from DOTA2 aka an ability that can only be activated by using teammates.

first one maybe not that restrictive to coop, but if their abilities require teammates for activation its pretty reasonable.

all in all, its a free content, and especially if its well executed, theres no real reason to complain

(also, i thought they were Hansel and Gretel, well, i still kinda do cuz i think they are more appropriate to the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of this world (i just noticed the reveal. dang ,_,)

[Calmguy23]

Looks like a cool concept for co-op, my friends suck at the game so I play solo. I was a bit excited to try them out when they were announced, but looks like I will miss out playing this duo. Probably could of been cool if the devs made the characters tag in and out for a solo player. It is, what it is though, I am sure people will enjoy it. Looking forward to the next character after them a bit more.