The game is overpriced in Norway.

[Zincoshine]

110 kr for a 10 dollar game? This price is a total ripoff. I might be willing to accept 100 in light of the current economic situation but keep in mind that in a few months 100 would also be too expensive. I recommend setting it to 90Kr instead.

Yeah I know you used steam's recommended pricing, definitely don't use that for Norwegian prices. The normal exchange rate under normal economic situations is 8.5, not 11.

[Ivara Ara]

My mans really talking about 110 is a lot of money, comeon bro, i bet you spend more money on other things that last for less.

[Zincoshine]

It's not just this game. The new recommended pricing on Steam is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Yeah, if it were just this game being overpriced in Norway them your argument would be valid but the changes to recommend pricing mean that this is going to affect EVERY SINGLE INDIE GAME released from now on so the additional cost is going to pile up VERY quickly and become way too much. As a result, piracy in Norway is going to rapidly increase in the future if indie developers follow the recommended pricing. By the way, you'll be seeing this thread in a lot of steam discussions in the future. Every new release going forward is going to need this thread. I have no choice until valve fixes the default recommended pricing. I'm doing this for the sake of the indie developers because I'd rather see Norwegians buy new releases instead of installing qtorrent. I cannot and will not support any titles that use the recommended pricing.

[StardragonEX]

I do understand the concerns about the price, but the devs needs to survive also, you wouldn't want your boss to pay you less than a minimum wage for your work. Also, maybe they live in a country and a place where things are more expensive and they need more money to survive. Also devs deserve money to not just survive, but to enjoy other things in life. Games aren't a necessity, nobody is putting you a pistol to make you buy the game, the game also doesn't have microtransactions and all that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I think if you like it, you want it, and you can afford it, it deserves the money. If not, there is a lot of other good games that you can enjoy that are cheaper.

For example, I can't enjoy AAA games, because there are a lot more expensive, and most of them are full of microtransactions, that is a thing that I don't like, but I don't feel bad about not playing them, I can enjoy thousands of very good indie games that are much more cheaper, and many of them, even more fun.

You can speak your concerns about the price to the devs, but the consumer isn't the only people that matter, the creator of the product also matter. As I said the devs here aren't a mega corporation that manipulates people into consuming its stuff.

[Zincoshine]

the devs can survive better on a fair pricing via 90 kr per purchase which is already an increase from the old 75kr price that used to be the recommendation for 10 dollar games. As it stands, right now they will get mostly 0 kr per "purchase" with a few cases of 110kr purchases. We are already being squeezed by inflation, we can't afford this unfair recommended pricing for all new releases. This applies to all games being released from now on. Developers will use the recommended pricing for Norway at their own loss.

[Ivara Ara]

As someone living in Norway with 440k yearly pay and a car loan i can say we can infact afford this.
Here is some general advice, gaming is a hobby, not a lifestyle, hobbies are not free, so if you can't afford to pay a few 100 kr or so then you sure as hell shouldn't be thinking about getting too deeply into gaming.

Save up, spend money on important things if you are struggling this much with moeny.

[wowscapewow]

Typical responses. If you are very serious about this TC, and think this is an issue, you are better off trying to find a more direct form of communication. I suggest you provide very specific numbers as well as pricing trends and history if you want them to understand or potentially change their mind. Learn about Steam pricing policies, about where the devs are from and what inflation is like there. You did some of this in your post but I don't understand what the numbers mean as someone from the US. Make it as easy for them to understand as possible. That is all I can say. Be willing to compromise or accept not getting a price change at all. Changing it in one area but not another could complicate things.

[Zincoshine]

Originally posted by Ivara Ara:

As someone living in Norway with 440k yearly pay and a car loan i can say we can infact afford this.
Here is some general advice, gaming is a hobby, not a lifestyle, hobbies are not free, so if you can't afford to pay a few 100 kr or so then you sure as hell shouldn't be thinking about getting too deeply into gaming.

Save up, spend money on important things if you are struggling this much with moeny.

oh please, do some math. Add up the extra kroners to every decent game released from now on and its easily going to add up to at least a thousand kroners being ripped off of us norwegians over the next couple of months for no reason other than valve being too lazy to spend more than 5 seconds when researching the USD to NOK exchange rate. I won't accept that, many others won't, people will just ditch steam and do what they used to do in the past before steam became the main portal to digital game purchases: Pirate.

I'd rather not do that so until valve decides to stop ripping us off I'm going to alert every creator of a game under development on my wishlist to the fact that they mustn't use the recommended pricing for Norwegian kroner. Those who listen get my money, those who don't, don't get my money. It's that simple.

[Zefar]

Oh no, 20 Norwegian Kroner more, the horrors!

That's less than a loaf of bread at the store. I'm sure you can manage the cost.

Rip off? Bah, it's in the amount that doesn't matter.

[Zouls]

someone gotta teach my man about inflation.

its 10 euro for danes too, 10 euro is 103 NOK, so you are whining about 7 NOK.

im more concerned over how the square enix games are 80 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ euro now, but thats just me.

[Vrede]

Since you're norweigan, I read all your english text with an norweigan accent, just like Norsemen on netflix.

[Zincoshine]

Originally posted by Zefar:

Oh no, 20 Norwegian Kroner more, the horrors!

That's less than a loaf of bread at the store. I'm sure you can manage the cost.

Rip off? Bah, it's in the amount that doesn't matter.

again, this isn't a one game issue. Try actually reading what I wrote.

[Zincoshine]

Originally posted by Zouls:

someone gotta teach my man about inflation.

its 10 euro for danes too, 10 euro is 103 NOK, so you are whining about 7 NOK.

im more concerned over how the square enix games are 80 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ euro now, but thats just me.

This has nothing to do with inflation, do you even know what inflation is?

As for square enix, its not a indie company so they set their own prices for each region. Valve's recommended pricing only affects indie developers, especially those with no publisher.

[Zouls]

Originally posted by Zincoshine:

Originally posted by Zouls:

someone gotta teach my man about inflation.

its 10 euro for danes too, 10 euro is 103 NOK, so you are whining about 7 NOK.

im more concerned over how the square enix games are 80 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ euro now, but thats just me.

This has nothing to do with inflation, do you even know what inflation is?

As for square enix, its not a indie company so they set their own prices for each region. Valve's recommended pricing only affects indie developers, especially those with no publisher.

You are whining that 10 dollars which is currently worth 102.82 NOK ON A WORLD WIDE SCALE DUE TO ECONOMIC INSTABILITY is 110 NOK for you

try to look at what is going on in the world the dollar has risen in value like crazy, and even if it was 10 euro like its for everyone else you are still only paying less than a euro more as you ask to get the game for 2 euros cheaper.

[Zincoshine]

Originally posted by Zouls:

Originally posted by Zincoshine:

This has nothing to do with inflation, do you even know what inflation is?

As for square enix, its not a indie company so they set their own prices for each region. Valve's recommended pricing only affects indie developers, especially those with no publisher.

You are whining that 10 dollars which is currently worth 102.82 NOK ON A WORLD WIDE SCALE DUE TO ECONOMIC INSTABILITY is 110 NOK for you

try to look at what is going on in the world the dollar has risen in value like crazy, and even if it was 10 euro like its for everyone else you are still only paying less than a euro more as you ask to get the game for 2 euros cheaper.

Are you dyslexic or just incredibly stupid? I just told you (and mentioned several times already) that this is an issue affecting ALL releases for ALL games released from now on. For now its just this game, but its going to add up really quickly as pretty much every indie game released from now is going to get overpriced in norway (and need a thread like this). So no, it isn't a different of 20 kroners, its a difference of potentially thousands of kroners over the next 12 months. I hope this ELI5 explains it, otherwise ♥♥♥♥ off.

[yosi yosi]

9.99 EUR is about 109 KR
I don't see the point of lowering the price for Norwegians. You ain't broke nor close to economic crisis. Poland's inflation is twice the high of Norway and they also pay equivalent of 9.99 EUR for Soulstone Survivors. Average salary in Norway is about 160-190 KR/h so don't cry, because you have to work 45 minutes to buy a game that takes easily 10 hours of your life in one session.
Btw. the game is totally worth it and it would sell as well if it costed 19.99 EUR.