Everything I can think of that's wrong with DDO.. from a FAN

[Doug]

DDO is not the perfect MMO. Maybe such a beast resides out there in the far reaches of cyberspace.. if so, I haven't seen it yet. I have tired of the ongoing ridiculous stuff I have seen posted about DDO, and I would like to try to set the record as straight as I can. I'll try to keep to one negative per post, and I WILL post my thoughts on each, fwiw.

This thread's been around for a VERY long time. Some of the things it mentions no longer exist in the game. Still, it's a pretty good primer for the things players have complained about over the years.

It's been just about a decade now since I made this posting. Yet some of the things it covers are STILL relevant.

[Doug]

frostedjar님이 먼저 게시:

Is any one else haveing probs with grouping? It wont show me the leaders name or icon just the quest name and lvl range

In the last update, DDO changed the client so that the Who list (Social Panel 'O' last tab) no longer automatically populates at client start. They did this to reduce start-up lag. Unfortunately, they seem to have overlooked the fact that the LFM system is populated from that same database. What it means is that by default, the LFM list won't show names unless you go to the Who tab, click in the Search field and hit Enter to manually populate that database.

(Actually, if you ignore it and play the game anyway, it will eventually populate, but I haven't bothered to monitor the circumstances.. possibly as you enter a zone, it populates with the people in that zone? idk. I stopped looking when I discovered the workaround).

It's a well-known problem; I expect they'll come up with a fix by the next update at the latest.

[Doug]

KRaRA님이 먼저 게시:

Doug님이 먼저 게시:

DDO is not balanced.

Again, true to some extent. If you choose to try PVP, you will find that some classes pwn. You will also find that some classes feel overpowered at certain level ranges as compared to other classes. Since it's a cooperative game, this is not as big a problem as it would be in a more competitive game, but you could still decide DDO is not OK for this reason.

not true. Some classes excel better in pvp and others in questing, some are only usefull at certain times but you notice ot when they're not there

How does this contradict my statement that DDO is not completely balanced and that one class or another shines at various times?

[Doug]

殺してあげる님이 먼저 게시:

Doug님이 먼저 게시:

The Crystal Cove event is currently running, and I wanted to make an Ornamented Dagger for a caster toon.

I'm finding all the level 24 CC items rather lacklustre; I have all the mats needed to make them, the mats serve no other purpose... and yet it STILL feels wasteful to make them. Maybe the 28 will impress?

They are certainly not revolutionary improvements. The L24 Ornamented Dagger is a nice increase in Potency and Spell Lore over the L20, but mostly because of how anemic that one is (It's the one they broke when they switched to Spellpower; it was OK before that with 'Superior Potency ...'). For the rest, the upgrades over the L20 are so trivial, if you already have a L20 T3 of something, there's no incentive to upgrade it at all (except possibly the Spyglass, if that +1 additional UMD matters to you or you wanted to add Open Lock).

Considering that they didn't release them in the Spring, I was hoping for more effort and thought to go into them. *sigh*

Guess I'll just farm ings for another Bottomless Flask of Rum or two: at 5500 green dragonshards apiece, that will absorb my efforts until the event passes.

[Exothermically Eclectic]

Doug님이 먼저 게시:

What it means is that by default, the LFM list won't show names unless you go to the Who tab, click in the Search field and hit Enter to manually populate that database.

Switching to the Who tab is sufficient; the search is not needed.

[殺してあげる]

Hate their inability to plan for 'emergent behaviour', even if it's predictable


*types as just broke the "Stormreaver Fresco" quest

ESCAPE FROM THE VAULT
okay
!DIMENSION DOOR!
***quest fail


oooorr.....

"A Break in the Ice"
Rungnir: "You are not my friend. But we have an enemy in common for now"
okay
*Lets Tharno and Rungnir kill each other while watching
***quest hangs
*petitions DM to advance the quest while guild is laughing their ass off at her breaking another quest

[Doug]

Highly Heretical님이 먼저 게시:

Doug님이 먼저 게시:

What it means is that by default, the LFM list won't show names unless you go to the Who tab, click in the Search field and hit Enter to manually populate that database.

Switching to the Who tab is sufficient; the search is not needed.

You are correct. Thank you for saving me a couple of key/mouse-strokes.

[Doug]

殺してあげる님이 먼저 게시:

Hate their inability to plan for 'emergent behaviour', even if it's predictable


*types as just broke the "Stormreaver Fresco" quest

ESCAPE FROM THE VAULT
okay
!DIMENSION DOOR!
***quest fail

Umm.. You aren't supposed to have Ddoor available in a L4? L5? quest. They can be forgiven for having overlooked that, imo.

殺してあげる님이 먼저 게시:

oooorr.....

"A Break in the Ice"
Rungnir: "You are not my friend. But we have an enemy in common for now"
okay
*Lets Tharno and Rungnir kill each other while watching
***quest hangs
*petitions DM to advance the quest while guild is laughing their ass off at her breaking another quest

How long did this take? I think I'd have fallen asleep waiting....

[殺してあげる]

Doug님이 먼저 게시:

Umm.. You aren't supposed to have Ddoor available in a L4? L5? quest. They can be forgiven for having overlooked that, imo.

level 4 quest, so 6 on elite.

Tier 2 enhancement, human: Lesser Dragonmark of Passage
Dim Door 2/rest

That's discounting that it's only a level 4 bard/wiz spell so easily UMD'd off a scroll if you've charisma as a mainstat.

殺してあげる님이 먼저 게시:

How long did this take? I think I'd have fallen asleep waiting....

Not THAT long. Ten minutes maybe? We went for a coffee break. Was twice as long to get a DM to advance the quest for us, mostly because it was a competition between who was more surprised: him at our breaking it, or us for him actually trying to fix it.

[Doug]

殺してあげる님이 먼저 게시:

Doug님이 먼저 게시:

Umm.. You aren't supposed to have Ddoor available in a L4? L5? quest. They can be forgiven for having overlooked that, imo.

level 4 quest, so 6 on elite.

Tier 2 enhancement, human: Lesser Dragonmark of Passage
Dim Door 2/rest

That's discounting that it's only a level 4 bard/wiz spell so easily UMD'd off a scroll if you've charisma as a mainstat.

Good point on the Dragonmark. Would have been rare to have a Lesser DM by L6 before the Enhancement pass, but probably possible.

Can you UMD a spell that's above your level? (i.e. that you aren't high enough level to cast at all? L4 spell = min L7 caster). Also, you can't buy ddoor scrolls anywhere iirc; this would be a terrible waste of one.

殺してあげる님이 먼저 게시:

Doug님이 먼저 게시:

How long did this take? I think I'd have fallen asleep waiting....

Not THAT long. Ten minutes maybe? We went for a coffee break. Was twice as long to get a DM to advance the quest for us, mostly because it was a competition between who was more surprised: him at our breaking it, or us for him actually trying to fix it.

*snort* I think if I were him, I'd have let you rerun it from scratch. You're supposed to run the quest, not let it run itself. Still, I've thought of doing likewise; just couldn't be bothered.

PS, you messed up your quoting and have attributed stuff to yourself that I said. :)

[殺してあげる]

Doug님이 먼저 게시:

Can you UMD a spell that's above your level? (i.e. that you aren't high enough level to cast at all? L4 spell = min L7 caster). Also, you can't buy ddoor scrolls anywhere iirc; this would be a terrible waste of one.

Quick Answer: no but yes

Well.. in PnP you can use a scroll underlevel, if you have the casting stat high enough, and it's your class. If you aren't normally high enough to cast it, you have to make a caster level check (So a first level wizard could cast a Meteor Swarm off a scroll, if he makes a DC 10 check).

UMD allows you to fake the class, and another UMD fake having the ability score.

Now DDO does and doesn't. A level 1 wizard CAN cast Meteor Swarm, and has a high umd check for it... but only if the wizard has a dozen levels or so in something else.

In DDO you need to equip the scroll to cast from it, which means it's subject to Min Level requirements. IF you can get it in your hands (c.f. burden of guilt debuff) you can cast it, but first you need to bypass that pesky ML. That said, your level IN the casting class will mitigate the UMD roll: a guildie's sorc has similar UMD to one of my sorcs, but I have 20% better chance to cast raise dead because she has 3 levels of paladin, while he hasn't any.


NOW here is where it's 'yes':

The ML for a level 4 spell, which is Caster Level 7, is ONLY ML 5. So you CAN, at level 5, put a dimension door scroll in your hands, and try to cast.



In Sum: You need to have the ML to hold the scroll in your hands, and the Class or UMD to make the Caster Level check to cast the scroll, but in those circumstances, you can cast a spell above your casting level.

Still, I've thought of doing likewise; just couldn't be bothered.

The enemy of my enemy is my entertainment. Plus they both annoyed me.

"I grow bored. Won't you two be a dear and kill each other for my amusement?"

And yeah, I didn't strip the rest of the quote tag like usually do for replies. In my defence, I didn't care. Er, i was distracted :P

[Raging Twilek]

殺してあげる님이 먼저 게시:

*takes 70 points of damage from Wall of Text
*rolls system shock: 02%

*phew

'k.

1- "it is f2p"

I counter with any sub game gets whiners about why do they have to pay, or the sub is too high, and when will it go free. Subscription-base (only) play is pretty much gone. F2P is only bad insofar as with regards to microtransactions and the slippery slope into P2W.



2-P2W

-there is no 'winning' in DDO, paid for or otherwise
-account-level purchases (storage/alts/etc) for the most are 'quality of living' type
-A la carte content is the new subscription. Pay in cash, or pay in time (earning tp).
-Stat tomes are readily available in raids and events (mabar was an easy +5 tome per char, repeatable)
-Skill tomes are given out as an option EVERY saga (repeatable)
-heroic TR can be earned in 2 hours of running challenges






you want to see a real free to play game... check out Path of Exile. real free to play. none of these lies u get here

[Exothermically Eclectic]

Yes, because Path of Exile has no microtransactions at all.

Oh, wait.

[Raging Twilek]

Highly Heretical님이 먼저 게시:

Yes, because Path of Exile has no microtransactions at all.

Oh, wait.

yeep got lvl 99 with full uniques set annnnnnnd did forumn clan pvp matches. not one penny spent for exp, mount, quests/ classs. race. nope nota./ u said it urself no micro transaction....
no game mech affecting micro transaction unlkike this pos liar game,. buy ur xp mounts n quests while some of us play totaly free and unlimited games like PoE. pay to win ddo so sad.

[殺してあげる]

buy ur xp mounts

Yeah. Neverwinter is *that* way.

Troll Rating: 0/10 Did not do the Research.

[Exothermically Eclectic]

Ashoka Tano님이 먼저 게시:

yeep got lvl 99 with full uniques set annnnnnnd did forumn clan pvp matches. not one penny spent for exp, mount, quests/ classs. race. nope nota./ u said it urself no micro transaction....
no game mech affecting micro transaction unlkike this pos liar game,. buy ur xp mounts n quests while some of us play totaly free and unlimited games like PoE. pay to win ddo so sad.

Oh look, ignorance.