What happens when a weapon breaks?

[Tiger]

I read on durability and the DDO oil you can buy to get rid of perm damage. I read about Bound items not taking perm damage. But what happens when a weapon hits zero durability? For example, pretend my armor has red (Perm Damage) on it, I go into dungeon and due to all the hits the durability goes to 0..
Can I still repair it up to the per damage? Will a DDO oil fix it AND the perm damage?
Thnx for reponses.
Avras

[Longhaul]

Once it breaks completely it is done. There is a repair elixer in store to fix it.. I have never had anything break completely though....

[Tiger]

Okie Dokie Ty Daynox.

[Exothermically Eclectic]

Originally posted by Poppiplayer:

But what happens when a weapon hits zero durability? For example, pretend my armor has red (Perm Damage) on it, I go into dungeon and due to all the hits the durability goes to 0..
Can I still repair it up to the per damage? Will a DDO oil fix it AND the perm damage?

Yes. Any damage repaired not caused by death has a chance to cause more permanent damage, but there's nothing stopping you repairing it until the entire bar is red. Though long before that it'll be effectively useless due to wearing out too fast to be actually useful for anything, of course.
It is temporarily unuseable while it has no durability, though, so make sure to repair it every so often.

Originally posted by Daynox:

Once it breaks completely it is done. There is a repair elixer in store to fix it.. I have never had anything break completely though....

He asked about hitting 0 durability in a dungeon, not 0 max durability.

[Taebrythn]

i can answer this question because i have used the oil. i have been playing for a while and i've had a few items i loved but since they were never bound and i didn't want to they would take damage. anyways once it got to a point where it was breaking more then being useful i used an oil on it. it fixed it completely. so i only use it on items i care about and once its no longer viable to keep repairing without breaking often.

[Tiger]

TY Taebrythn, good info.

[Doug]

I think this has been pretty thoroughly covered, but I'll try to organize the info so it's clear.

- Temporary durability damage (TDD) accumulates from quest to quest until it is repaired by a vendor. Permanent durability damage (PDD) accumulates until the item becomes useless unless you purchase Item Restoration Oil from the DDO Store to repair the permanent damage, or in some cases, upgrade the weapon to a new version (e.g. using Epic Crafting).

- Only equipped items take TDD. However, stacks of items like scrolls, potions, etc, can have some lost due to damage.

- Items take TDD from use and also from death. If you ever use /death as a means to deliberately teleport to your bind point, unequipping your gear will prevent durability damage.

- Named and bound items don't take PDD. They do take TDD.

- When something hits 0 temporary durability in quest, it becomes unusable and is automatically unequipped. We tend to say it 'broke', but it can still be repaired.

- PDD ONLY occurs during repair of TDD. In other words, it doesn't happen in quest; it happens at a vendor. Not all vendors are created equal. There are a few with lower costs and/or better odds of avoiding PDD.

- With enough Free Agent favor you can use a repair expert who has half the chance of causing PDD. This is inconvenient enough, I wonder if anyone has ever bothered (She's in the Sands). There are a couple of other expert repair options as well (see the link below).

- Repairing TDD loss from dying never causes PDD. (Thus, /death is safe enough, just may cost plat for the repairs.)

- It's hard to say what happens when an item hits 0 PDD because long before that it becomes effectively useless. For example, if your sword has only 10 permanent durability left, it's almost certain to break during every quest. I expect nobody in the game has ever pushed an item to the point where it lost its last point of permanent durability. Thus, it's hard to say whether the item disappears at that point, or whether the DDO Store oil could still be used to fix it. But practically speaking, it's pretty irrelevant.

https://ddowiki.com/page/Repair_(equipment)

[Tiger]

Actually Doug that had info I had not previously read. Tyvm.

[Traltwin]

Originally posted by Doug:

I think this has been pretty thoroughly covered, but I'll try to organize the info so it's clear.

- Temporary durability damage (TDD) accumulates from quest to quest until it is repaired by a vendor. Permanent durability damage (PDD) accumulates until the item becomes useless unless you purchase Item Restoration Oil from the DDO Store to repair the permanent damage, or in some cases, upgrade the weapon to a new version (e.g. using Epic Crafting).

- Only equipped items take TDD. However, stacks of items like scrolls, potions, etc, can have some lost due to damage.

- Items take TDD from use and also from death. If you ever use /death as a means to deliberately teleport to your bind point, unequipping your gear will prevent durability damage.

- Named and bound items don't take PDD. They do take TDD.

- When something hits 0 temporary durability in quest, it becomes unusable and is automatically unequipped.

- PDD ONLY occurs during repair of TDD. In other words, it doesn't happen in quest; it happens at a vendor. Not all vendors are created equal. There are a few with lower costs and/or better odds of avoiding PDD.

- With enough Free Agent favor you can use a repair expert who has half the chance of causing PDD. This is inconvenient enough, I wonder if anyone has ever bothered (She's in the Sands). There are a couple of other expert repair options as well (see the link below).

- Repairing TDD loss from dying never causes PDD. (Thus, /death is safe enough, just may cost plat for the repairs.)

- It's hard to say what happens when an item hits 0 PDD because long before that it becomes effectively useless. For example, if your sword has only 10 permanent durability left, it's almost certain to break during every quest. I expect nobody in the game has ever pushed an item to the point where it lost its last point of permanent durability. Thus, it's hard to say whether the item disappears at that point, or whether the DDO Store oil could still be used to fix it. But practically speaking, it's pretty irrelevant.

https://ddowiki.com/page/Repair_(equipment)

Necromancer-ing this post .... I swore I heard that vendor DIDN'T damage your gear if you used the woman blacksmith in the desert.... Good to know!!

[Doug]

Imo, there are a few important takeaways:

1) Repair your gear every time you go to a vendor to sell trash loot. Having an item break because its TDD hits zero during a quest is a pain. Make repairing a habit.

2) Since named gear and bound gear never takes PDD, relying on such items is a good plan.

3) If there's a random lootgen item that you think will be of value to you long-term, do the first Stone of Change Alchemical Ritual on it. If it started as unbound, that makes it BtC, which is unfortunate, but it also prevents PDD thereafter.. AND it increases the item's durability so it takes more TDD before it breaks. (If it DIDN'T start as unbound, item damage isn't a reason to do the ritual; it already won't take PDD.)

4) Since only equipped items take TDD, an item you only use as a clicky need never be bound; it will never take PDD unless you actually use it in combat.

[Taebrythn]

Originally posted by Traltwin:

Originally posted by Doug:

I think this has been pretty thoroughly covered, but I'll try to organize the info so it's clear.

- Temporary durability damage (TDD) accumulates from quest to quest until it is repaired by a vendor. Permanent durability damage (PDD) accumulates until the item becomes useless unless you purchase Item Restoration Oil from the DDO Store to repair the permanent damage, or in some cases, upgrade the weapon to a new version (e.g. using Epic Crafting).

- Only equipped items take TDD. However, stacks of items like scrolls, potions, etc, can have some lost due to damage.

- Items take TDD from use and also from death. If you ever use /death as a means to deliberately teleport to your bind point, unequipping your gear will prevent durability damage.

- Named and bound items don't take PDD. They do take TDD.

- When something hits 0 temporary durability in quest, it becomes unusable and is automatically unequipped.

- PDD ONLY occurs during repair of TDD. In other words, it doesn't happen in quest; it happens at a vendor. Not all vendors are created equal. There are a few with lower costs and/or better odds of avoiding PDD.

- With enough Free Agent favor you can use a repair expert who has half the chance of causing PDD. This is inconvenient enough, I wonder if anyone has ever bothered (She's in the Sands). There are a couple of other expert repair options as well (see the link below).

- Repairing TDD loss from dying never causes PDD. (Thus, /death is safe enough, just may cost plat for the repairs.)

- It's hard to say what happens when an item hits 0 PDD because long before that it becomes effectively useless. For example, if your sword has only 10 permanent durability left, it's almost certain to break during every quest. I expect nobody in the game has ever pushed an item to the point where it lost its last point of permanent durability. Thus, it's hard to say whether the item disappears at that point, or whether the DDO Store oil could still be used to fix it. But practically speaking, it's pretty irrelevant.

https://ddowiki.com/page/Repair_(equipment)

Necromancer-ing this post .... I swore I heard that vendor DIDN'T damage your gear if you used the woman blacksmith in the desert.... Good to know!!

if you use the apprentice it is less likely to damage in the sands. that is if you don't have enough favor to use her.