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How hard did you try? Pressing T enables mouse look mode, where moving your mouse moves your view. Pressing and holding the RMB does the same,
https://www.ddo.com/forums/forum.php
Not exactly hidden. Combined with your ignorance about Mouse Look Mode, I do have to wonder whether you actually bothered trying to look, or just expect everything spoonfed to you.
First, did you find the Key Mapping option in Settings at all? I believe <ESC> Options - Key Mapping is the path to get there.
You can indeed (with Default mappings) look around using the mouse. If you hold down RMB, you have that functionality. You also have the option to hit 'T' to enter mouselook mode and not have to hold a mousebutton at all. I personally find that limiting, but to each his own.
Obviously what is better is personal to each person in cases like this, which is why Key Mapping exists.
The mapping changes that will do as you want:
Change 'Attack' from 'Button 0' to 'Button 1'
Change 'DDO Classic Interact/Steer' from 'Button 1' to 'Button 0'
Change 'Action Interact' from <blank> (in my case: might not be default) to 'Button 3'
Note that there are a couple of Attack/Interact/Steer options, so this might not be the ideal combo, tho it certainly will work to enable what you seek.
Go to www.ddo.com and select 'Community' then 'Forums' and sign in with your game ID.
You will need additional keys if you wish to 'slide' (i.e. move sideways without changing your aim point). Also, your key mapping suggests no backward key. That's what ASD do, even when using mouse for forward.
Really? Cheers?
I have taken pains to respond to this in a different tone than that in which it was posted. Rather than as an attack on DDO, might you next time try to phrase this as a 'How can I...?' or 'Does DDO allow...?' first, before assuming they've done it wrong?
I hope that this info will allow you to enjoy DDO. If you have further question, we'd be delighted to help.
Of course I found how to map the keys or I would not have said that I cannot map FORWARD to LEFT MOUSE.
I found Mouse Look after posting, but I cannot map FORWARD to Left Mouse button as it is simply not allowed. I put in a ticket to support already. I was hoping for a quick and easy answer, but I get juvenile fan boy defence of the game and personal attacks instead. Attack the company? Where?
I CAN map FORWARD to Mouse Wheel Button, which is just plain stupid and difficult to use. But I cannot map it to Left Mouse Button.
Every other game I have played in the last 25 years has been able to so this. I don't understand why Warner Brothers decided on something different. And holding a button so you can look around? How whack is that? No wonder people use Mouse Look, which is the only intuitive and natural way to do it.
Neverwinter is down for maintenance in preparation for Module 4, so I wanted to spend the afternoon playing DDO, but I got as far as the cave and had to give up. Shame, really, as I much prefer 3.5E rules to NW's version of 4E and I would have bought 12 months of VIP membership so I could roll a Druid from the start.
Unfortunately, until they change the code so the LEFT MOUSE can be mapped to FORWARD motion, it is unplayable for me. So I'll pass.
Really? ASD are for left, right and back? Well DUUU-UUUHH! I wonder what I have been doing for the last 25 years, then?
How do I map FORWARD motion to the LEFT MOUSE Button?
YOU CAN'T. IT IS NOT ALLOWED.
And why is the Key Map Window so small? In Neverwinter, you can change the size like any Window in Windows, and see dozens of key functions instead of just a few. That way, you can more easily see if a key you want to use is already in use.
I had read that DODO was better then Neverwinter, but I have sadly seen no evidence of it so far.
Cheers!
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Hmm.. how to respond... I'll start with: Sorry, but you were NOT clear that you had found the mapping options and that mapping Forward to LMB was unsupported by the game. The 'I cannot even look around by moving the mouse' strongly suggested you had not found the Key Mapping, as there are several options there that allow that. Clearly I misunderstood or you were unspecific.
Second, when you said 'I am not prepared to learn a new method using WASD', it strongly suggested that you had some other method in mind for the ASD part or simply hadn't considered it at all.
Third, not sure how my posting how to do what you requested amounted to 'juvenile fanboy defense of the game'. If you can't see that the tone of your original posting was argumentative and critical rather than open and inquisitive, I'll never convince you that calling it an 'attack on DDO' was justified (which, btw, is the game, not the company). Maybe I am 'juvenile' in thinking that the first response to a problem should assume a positive outcome is possible. If so, I think I'll stay that way.
In short, I do regret that your specific desired keymapping isn't supported by DDO. Frankly, with all the flexibility there, I hadn't even imagined such a thing was possible. But definitely my bad that I looked at the screen but didn't actually attempt to make the changes I suggested to test their validity. My only defense is that I didn't want to mess up my own key mappings (which are far from default). Still.. I DID take the time to look.. with no expected reward other than the good feeling I get from helping people.
Regarding possible solutions:
Have you considered an external mouse mapping software? Swapping left and right mouse buttons can be done in Windows itself, last I checked. The biggest pain would be having to swap back after playing. 3rd party software like what comes with most Logitech mice (and can probably be downloaded free) will attach itself to the game and make the swap on launch and undo it on exit. If that worked, it would be the least inconvenient workaround until and unless DDO changes the prohibition on the mapping you seek. (This does, of course, assume that DDO's mapping won't simply override the external one. Cross your fingers.)
I don't know why some features of DDO are not resizable, but it IS a bit older than a lot of its competition. The reason it's so small is because it's not resizable and has to fit on every screen resolution that might play the game... fwiw.
I've also remapped the <CAPSLOCK> as a second <F1> key at the Windows level. That way I never yell by accident in chat, and selecting myself in DDO is an easier reach. This is some of what works for me.. my preferred setup, if you will.
Arguing that someone's setup is sub-par seems counterproductive to me. Either he can do it the way he wants or he can't and either has to go play something else or learn a new approach. That's all there is to it.
ALL of them, except Warner Brothers in DODO.
I put in a tech support ticket and they suggested I put a post into the Suggestion Box forum as the Devs read it and respond regularly. I signed up there about 5 minutes after making my OP here, but I am not allowed to make new posts. Must be some 24 hour cooling off period or something.
So, they can enable mouse button re-mapping like every other game company I can think of, or they won't get my $99.00. I don't want to play another Cleric, I wanted to play a Druid.
No, you are acting like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ troll who did not read my post. Either that, or it went completely over your head even though you read it very, very slowly with your lips moving and your index finger following every line.
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FWIW, Warner Brothers didn't create DDO, they bought it and inherited what I gather is a mass of spaghetti code. One of DDO's ongoing issues is that when they code something new or fix something, often something apparently unrelated breaks. Unfortunately, that has made them some skittish about fixes, especially those not demanded by a large number of people. Personally, I think DDO is good enough to justify a 'ground up' rewrite which would breathe new life into the franchise, but I'm not the bean counter.
Just a few examples:
Arena (1994) - Where you look is where you go, LEFT mouse to move forward, A,S,D for left, right, back
Heretic (1994) - Where you look is where you go, LEFT mouse to move forward, A,S,D for left, right, back
HeXen (1995) - Where you look is where you go, LEFT mouse to move forward, A,S,D for left, right, back
Daggerfall (1996) - Where you look is where you go, LEFT mouse to move forward, A,S,D for left, right, back
Age of Empires (1997) - LEFT click where you want to move
Baldur's Gate (1998) - LEFT click where you want to move
Planescape: Torment (1999) - LEFT click where you want to move
Icewind Dale (2000) - LEFT click where you want to move
The Temple of Elemental Evil (2003) - LEFT click where you want to move
Dungeons and Dragons Online (2004)
Sorry, we are breaking with tradition and will NOT ALLOW YOU to do that. And if you have a problem with your left shoulder, arthritis, tenosynovitis and/or carpal tunnel syndrome, TOUGH. Go play Neverwinter instead.
I am quite sure that this was not their intention. So we are back to my initial impression that it is a clunky, daft system that seems to have DEvolved into something unusable for me.
Thank you for the helpful suggestions.
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Might as well include Pool of Radience if you're going that left-field. 'Where you want to move' ...so what if i'm circle strafing backwards ?
If you want a counter...haven't heard of the rest of those but in passing, but i HAVE heard of Quake (1996)..which used.. WASD
And to use a game I was just playing 3 minutes ago... World of Tanks... WASD to move and rotate hull. Mouse to move/rotate turret... and left click to put 90mm of explosive pain in your tank, regardless of the fact i'm hulldown angling my armour and reversing back the hill as I shoot.
Honestly every character in DDO I have would do horrid if left click was movement..I'd lose agility to dodging spells and end up having to use another key for attacks (right-click isn't an option..i tend to spin the camera angle independant my actual movement. people looking over my shoulder mention something about naseua, but I prefer having 360 degree effective vision). That and if you have 7 hotbars... you can't keymap them.. would that mean need a modified click to use them instead of move/look?
*shrug* regardless, do hope you find a way to finangle it to working...personal preference for movement and such IS an annoyance when a game won't let you use 'your style'. Know of a few people turned off different games solely because the interface wasn't 'intuiative' to them. Lousy reason to lose a player.
I've been constantly calling him on his BS in another thread and now he's gone everywhere. Idk if he had to manually delete every post he ever made or if he deleted his Steam account and this is the result. Either way, I think it's my fault.
Yep. I'm not gonna judge another person's style, but it's definitely a terrible reason to be unable to play a good game.
Did you try this? It was at the bottom of a longish post, so it's possible you overlooked it. Also possible you are opposed to the idea, of course. But feedback would be appreciated either way. (Did it work or what objection to the idea do you have?)