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Cloudy Feb 23, 2018 @ 4:18am
Help with understanding Critical Roll
For instance, if on my longsword i have
Critical Roll: (10%/2-16) 19-20 / x2

I'm just assuming i have 10% chance to crit, but not 100% sure what the other numbers and x2 mean, if someone could explain it to me in a short way i'd really appreciate it.
Last edited by Cloudy; Feb 23, 2018 @ 4:18am
Originally posted by Doug:
D&D is based on a d20 for attack. DDO has taken some liberties with the process here and there, but it still uses the d20 for this. This: "(10%/2-16) 19-20 / x2" is more or less two ways of saying the same thing. One is the original D&D approach, and the other is intended to be more accessible to DDO players who haven't played D&D.

Thus on a roll of 19 to 20 (10% of the time) you will 'threaten' a critical hit. In actual fact, a second roll to-hit must be made to 'confirm' the crit. This second roll need only successfully hit, not be high enough to crit again. If the crit is confirmed, your weapon will do double (x2) its normal damage (not shown here.. it's in the previous line of the weapon description) of 1d8 or 1-8, which would be 2-16.
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Zavolar Feb 23, 2018 @ 4:52am 
Multiplier

Your damage x 2

Your sword's damage is most likely 1-8 so It would crit for 2-16(1-8 x 2)
Cloudy Feb 23, 2018 @ 4:59am 
What's the meaning of 19-20 though. This might be a dumb question, i'm fully aware of that.
meorcmegreat Feb 23, 2018 @ 5:32am 
If you roll a 19 or 20 on the Attack Roll, you get a Crit. 10% because you use a d20.
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
Doug Feb 23, 2018 @ 7:22am 
D&D is based on a d20 for attack. DDO has taken some liberties with the process here and there, but it still uses the d20 for this. This: "(10%/2-16) 19-20 / x2" is more or less two ways of saying the same thing. One is the original D&D approach, and the other is intended to be more accessible to DDO players who haven't played D&D.

Thus on a roll of 19 to 20 (10% of the time) you will 'threaten' a critical hit. In actual fact, a second roll to-hit must be made to 'confirm' the crit. This second roll need only successfully hit, not be high enough to crit again. If the crit is confirmed, your weapon will do double (x2) its normal damage (not shown here.. it's in the previous line of the weapon description) of 1d8 or 1-8, which would be 2-16.
Doug Feb 23, 2018 @ 7:43am 
For more info, let's take a more complete example, using the "Nicked Longsword" from the Sharn Syndicate chain. The relevant sections are:

Base Damage Rating: 7.15
Damage: (3-10) [1d8] + 2 Slash, Magic
Critical Roll: (10%/6-20) 19-20 / x2


The Base damage rating is a mathematical average damage per hit including criticals (I think it assumes all crits are confirmed). However, it does NOT include things like any elemental or other damage that may be listed below, nor feats or enhancements you may have that would increase the damage, crit chance, etc.

Under Damage:, the +2 is the weapon's enhancement bonus, which gives +2 to hit and damage.
The part in [ ] is known as the Base Damage, or [W]. Aside from a few named weapons, the [W] will be the same for all weapons of the same type, but higher-level ones may have a multiplier (e.g. 2.5[1d8] ). Thus the (3-10) is the base damage including the enhancement bonus.

We've already discussed the critical roll above. I'll just note that one number now looks different. the '6-20' is the '3-10' doubled, i.e. it includes (and doubles) the enhancement bonus as well as the [W].


Btw, "19-20 / x2" is known as a 'crit profile'. Aside from some named weapons, crit profiles are also weapon-type specific and consistent. All non-named longswords will have the same base damage and crit profile.
Cloudy Feb 23, 2018 @ 7:45am 
My hero, thank you.
Doug Feb 23, 2018 @ 7:48am 
Originally posted by Random Person:
My hero, thank you.

You're very welcome. It's worth understanding how it works, so that you can intelligently compare weapons.
Rodfather Feb 27, 2018 @ 4:23pm 
The "Seeker" skill will help yuor second roll to confirm critical hits. For example a Seeker+2, will add 2 to the d20 to confirm a critical roll.
Cloudy Feb 27, 2018 @ 4:32pm 
Originally posted by Rodfather:
The "Seeker" skill will help yuor second roll to confirm critical hits. For example a Seeker+2, will add 2 to the d20 to confirm a critical roll.

Thank you for this useless piece of information.
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