Return to Monkey Island

Return to Monkey Island

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Based Jar Jar Enjoyer Sep 23, 2022 @ 11:46pm
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I think Return is the BEST Monkey Island game
I had an amazing time with the game, absolutely loved it from beginning to end.

Story

Once again it's a fun adventure. I feel like with Secret they were very limited by how big they could make a game, and Revenge felt a bit disjointed at times, but Return was a great evolving story. I'm glad Elaine was a bit more actively involved in the plot than in the first two games, too.

Puzzles

I understand people who are disappointed because they wanted more elaborate weird puzzles of old, but personally I'm older and I have less time to game. I'm in there for the atmosphere and humour, not to be stuck at one puzzle for hours. It hit exactly the right spot for me of not that difficult, not trivial.

Voice cast

I just want to add it here since I've seen multiple people mentioning their displeasure with LeChuck's new voice actor, that I thought he was great at making the character his own. I loved this iteration of LeChuck, Guybrush was brilliantly voiced as usual, and they had a great supporting cast.

Humour

Just as great as the first two games, with the bonus of being able to call back stuff across decades of games. There were several times the game gave me a laughing fit, like Guybrush throwing his disguise eyepatch in the air, or the Secret.

Art

The screenshots and trailer don't do the art justice, once I actually was playing the art/direction felt great, like I was playing a cartoon. Personally I am of the opinion that every Monkey Island game having a totally different art style from all previous games is tradition now, and this was a great art style that really fit the mood of the game. People who call it "bland, sterile, corporate" need to get glasses, or a dictionary, because while it's fine to dislike the art and I get it if you don't agree with me that it's great art, but the art is none of those three words.

Ending

To people who didn't like the ending: what did you expect? The first two Monkey Island games, especially the second one gave you an anticlimax ending too. The ending was always going to be weird. Personally, I was expecting a Monty Python And The Holy Grail, with Guybrush being arrested for his crimes. Having this game explain Revenge's twist ending, only to do it AGAIN was hilarious, and the Secret being a shirt was genious - I've even heard an NPC actually spoil this near the start of the game in optional dialogue. And hey, nothing lost - afterwards at the park it's immediately made clear that the ending we saw wasn't the ending proper, it's just how Guybrush is telling it now. There was dome sort of final confrontation, and Guybrush prevailed - it's just not important, because the hero always prevails anyway. It was about the journey, not the goal. Personally, I loved it.

Length

I finished this game at more than eleven hours, more than what I needed for my first time with the first two games put together (and I was stuck less in this game than in Revenge). I love it, the game gave me a lot of bang for my buck, and I'm definitely replaying soon if not right away to look into the stuff that I missed because I have less than half of the achievements (I don't care for achievement completion and only go for 100% for games that I really, REALLY enjoyed, and I enjoyed Return more than enough to take a look at what I missed).

Conclusion

Everything clicked with this game. Its bigger size, pleasing art, cool story and great humour made it a great mix and an excellent game. I loved it. If this is the end of the franchise, I'm okay with it, but hopefully it does well enough for Disney to want to contract Gilbert for another game or two.
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GeorgeBroussard Sep 24, 2022 @ 12:17am 
100% to everything you said.
dlux Sep 24, 2022 @ 12:30am 
lol no

It is by far the worst.
Andrew 林 Sep 24, 2022 @ 12:39am 
This game's not even top 3
dprog1995 Sep 24, 2022 @ 12:40am 
Originally posted by GeorgeBroussard:
100% to everything you said.
Are you THE real George Broussard ?

I really liked his Bio Menace game. I would like to get a sequel for it.
dprog1995 Sep 24, 2022 @ 12:41am 
Also, there is no "best MI game".

All 6 games are equal and awesome.
Originally posted by dlux:
lol no

It is by far the worst.
Originally posted by Andrew 林:
This game's not even top 3

That's your opinions and you are entitled to them, but that's just what they are, opinions. Just like it is my opinion that it's the best.

Originally posted by dprog1995:
Also, there is no "best MI game".

All 6 games are equal and awesome.
Don't get me wrong, I didn't dislike any Monkey Island game :-) Just like I don't dislike any Star Wars movie, but to me there's still definitely an order for titles I love the most and titles I just enjoy.
Mandrake42 Sep 24, 2022 @ 9:17am 
Where you rank it is absolutely going to be down to personal preference. How much you personally enjoy a piece of art is be definition subjective. Your opinion is right for you.

I am unsure where I sit on this one as I have yet to finish it but my personal favourite is MI 2, at least in part for what it means to me for sentimental reasons from the time and place where I played it to the friends I played it with.

I actually quite liked the Tales of Monkey Island episodic ones by Telltale back when the were still doing adventures. I quite like things like The Walking Dead and Tales from the Borderlands but they feel more like narrative experiences rather than point and click adventures.
Arsene Lupin Sep 24, 2022 @ 9:33am 
Originally posted by Mandrake42:
I am unsure where I sit on this one as I have yet to finish it but my personal favourite is MI 2, at least in part for what it means to me for sentimental reasons from the time and place where I played it to the friends I played it with.

I actually quite liked the Tales of Monkey Island episodic ones by Telltale back when the were still doing adventures. I quite like things like The Walking Dead and Tales from the Borderlands but they feel more like narrative experiences rather than point and click adventures.

I've only played MI1 (the remaster) previously, and really liked it. I'm enjoying the hell out of Return (weird options aside); but I've also heard a lot of really, really good things about MI2, so I'm excited to dive into it next.

I have no frame of reference for pre-TWD Telltale games. Is there any i(systemic or narrative) nterconnectivity between episodes, or are they self-contained?
Mandrake42 Sep 24, 2022 @ 9:38am 
Originally posted by Arsene Lupin:
Originally posted by Mandrake42:
I am unsure where I sit on this one as I have yet to finish it but my personal favourite is MI 2, at least in part for what it means to me for sentimental reasons from the time and place where I played it to the friends I played it with.

I actually quite liked the Tales of Monkey Island episodic ones by Telltale back when the were still doing adventures. I quite like things like The Walking Dead and Tales from the Borderlands but they feel more like narrative experiences rather than point and click adventures.

I've only played MI1 (the remaster) previously, and really liked it. I'm enjoying the hell out of Return (weird options aside); but I've also heard a lot of really, really good things about MI2, so I'm excited to dive into it next.

I have no frame of reference for pre-TWD Telltale games. Is there any i(systemic or narrative) nterconnectivity between episodes, or are they self-contained?

The remaster of MI2 is well worth it. Its on steam for a reasonable price, if you you are pressed for cash, it come up on sale from time to time.

The thing I like with the remasters of both MI and MI2 is the way you can change between the original pixel art and the update. I played in the updated graphics for the most part but I liked to do comparisons on every screen just to compare them. I think they did a great job updating the art.
Bishop Cruz Sep 24, 2022 @ 10:44am 
Eh, it's probably the worst with the exception of Escape, which loses a TON of points for being born in a time where Lucasarts thought the GRIME engine was a good idea.
Yes, I have a Mic. Sep 24, 2022 @ 10:51am 
Have they seriously resorted to hiring people to say this nonsense?
Like, I could believe you were for real if you said you liked it but the *best* one? Better than the original? Or the second? The third?
No dude. No. You're trolling or on the payroll, no other explanation.
amigastar Sep 24, 2022 @ 10:58am 
Originally posted by Screaming Deaf Man:
Have they seriously resorted to hiring people to say this nonsense?
Like, I could believe you were for real if you said you liked it but the *best* one? Better than the original? Or the second? The third?
No dude. No. You're trolling or on the payroll, no other explanation.
Or, he just has an other opinion than you.
Priest of Syrinx Sep 24, 2022 @ 1:24pm 
Originally posted by Arsene Lupin:
I've only played MI1 (the remaster) previously, and really liked it. I'm enjoying the hell out of Return (weird options aside); but I've also heard a lot of really, really good things about MI2, so I'm excited to dive into it next.
I would suggest finishing 2 before finishing Return.

Originally posted by Screaming Deaf Man:
Have they seriously resorted to hiring people to say this nonsense?
Reviews on Steam and Metacritic show that the game is well-liked, both by critics and players. There is no need to do this kind of damage control.
Last edited by Priest of Syrinx; Sep 24, 2022 @ 1:27pm
Arsene Lupin Sep 24, 2022 @ 1:40pm 
Eh, I'm sure it'll be fine. I've never been one to get hung up on spoilers. I figure if a story's good, knowing what happens in advance can't ruin it. And if it can ruin it, it's not all that good in the first place.
Originally posted by juliuszhorst:
Originally posted by Arsene Lupin:
I've only played MI1 (the remaster) previously, and really liked it. I'm enjoying the hell out of Return (weird options aside); but I've also heard a lot of really, really good things about MI2, so I'm excited to dive into it next.
I would suggest finishing 2 before finishing Return.

Originally posted by Screaming Deaf Man:
Have they seriously resorted to hiring people to say this nonsense?
Reviews on Steam and Metacritic show that the game is well-liked, both by critics and players. There is no need to do this kind of damage control.

- Less than 20% of steam players have completed part five, meaning less than 20% have seen the ending.
- Of those roughly 2500 left reviews on steam. Many of those had insufficient hours to have completed the game. Once they had it dropped to "very positive", keeping in mind this is still early days.
- There are 58 user reviews on metacritic, of those few 32 were positive, 6 mixed and 9 negative.
- Interestingly enough all 29 metacritic critic reviews (near half of the user reviews) were positive. All of them. Not one dissenting voice. From such prestigious and trustworthy publications like IGN all the way to "Checkpoint Gaming".

I find it interesting you would look at this low sample size and try to represent it as a slam dunk but hey, I'm just the guy who thinks declaring this the best MI game to be an insult to everyones intelligence.
And who knows, maybe the damage has yet to arrive.
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