Trivia cards how do they spawn?

[Lugum]

Just keep walking around till they appear or something?

[Mettanine]

Basically yes. You need to answer them as you go, however. Once you have a certain number of unanswered cards in your book, they stop spawning until you answer one.

But you can always collect more in subsequent playthroughs, since they are global and not tied to any particular save.

[Lugum]

Originally posted by Mettanine:

Basically yes. You need to answer them as you go, however. Once you have a certain number of unanswered cards in your book, they stop spawning until you answer one.

But you can always collect more in subsequent playthroughs, since they are global and not tied to any particular save.

Thanks, well i have answered them, just couldn't find more (yet).

Okay, but i got 10500 games, so replaying this game (and i heard how unfortunately short it is) isn't really i like to do with any game, although it already has to happen once for that under 3 hours achievement.

[Saegur]

I am also trying to figure out the mechanics, since I got every other achievement, and I currently reload a melee island save to check the spots. not very fun. It seemed to me that reloading a save made them respawn more likeley then just running around. potentially the quests/story need to advance too

[CyberHaggis]

Originally posted by Lugum:

Originally posted by Mettanine:

Basically yes. You need to answer them as you go, however. Once you have a certain number of unanswered cards in your book, they stop spawning until you answer one.

But you can always collect more in subsequent playthroughs, since they are global and not tied to any particular save.

Thanks, well i have answered them, just couldn't find more (yet).

Okay, but i got 10500 games, so replaying this game (and i heard how unfortunately short it is) isn't really i like to do with any game, although it already has to happen once for that under 3 hours achievement.

Short? It lasted me 15 hours, that's not short at all for a point and click game. Indeed, it is on the longer side, and on par with the duration of the other Monkey Island games.

[Lugum]

Originally posted by Haggis McMutton:

Originally posted by Lugum:

Thanks, well i have answered them, just couldn't find more (yet).

Okay, but i got 10500 games, so replaying this game (and i heard how unfortunately short it is) isn't really i like to do with any game, although it already has to happen once for that under 3 hours achievement.

Short? It lasted me 15 hours, that's not short at all for a point and click game. Indeed, it is on the longer side, and on par with the duration of the other Monkey Island games.

Apparently there is an achievement to finish it under 3 hours, some claim to even manage it in 1 1/2 hour..

[Mettanine]

Originally posted by Lugum:

Apparently there is an achievement to finish it under 3 hours, some claim to even manage it in 1 1/2 hour..

It's under 2 hours for the achievement and 1.5 seems about right for when I did that.

But that is only if you skip every dialogue and cut-scene and only do the absolutely necessary things. Not the most fun way to play the game and certainly not a reason to consider it short!

The old MI games can (allegedly) be finished in under an hour. Would you consider those short?

[Lugum]

Originally posted by Mettanine:

Originally posted by Lugum:

Apparently there is an achievement to finish it under 3 hours, some claim to even manage it in 1 1/2 hour..

It's under 2 hours for the achievement and 1.5 seems about right for when I did that.

But that is only if you skip every dialogue and cut-scene and only do the absolutely necessary things. Not the most fun way to play the game and certainly not a reason to consider it short!

The old MI games can (allegedly) be finished in under an hour. Would you consider those short?

The second also has an under 2 hour achievement. and i am now at part 2 which on itself took me 2 hours.
No but you also had no internet, no walkthrough to cheat on (except waiting on your favorite game magazine so it could take weeks/months even but when you look at let's plays on youtube can be speedrun under 2 hours.
I don't know as i said i haven't fnished it, but i seen a lot of players on steam reviewing it with just 5 hours in total.

[Mettanine]

I'm sure you can finish it in 5 hours. Either by getting every puzzle solution right away or by using the hint book a lot. There's nothing preventing that.

Myself, I'd rather take my time and avoid using the hint book as much as possible. Which I did and it took me about 10 hours over the course of several days.

[Lugum]

Originally posted by Mettanine:

I'm sure you can finish it in 5 hours. Either by getting every puzzle solution right away or by using the hint book a lot. There's nothing preventing that.

Myself, I'd rather take my time and avoid using the hint book as much as possible. Which I did and it took me about 10 hours over the course of several days.

I am not using the hint book at all (didn't even know if there was an achievement for it) i did look up a walkthrough 2-3 times though if i get really stuck, but i must say this game surely is easier then the others (looking at you MI3 or any adventure game) most of these puzzles are things that make sense, and having a todo list certainly helps too, it's basically a hint system without the spoiling.

And f.e getting all the pirates to vote for you, it basically took one thing to give to a pirate (the knife) and then basically you could get the rest persuaded automatically too.
Thanks well it seems like just playing an old adventure game then.

[Saegur]

After some experimentation, I think the spawn system is time based. After loading the save this morning I was able to find 5 Trivia cards. Then I saved and reloaded (quit game too) and no cards to be found. 3 hours later I found 4 Trivia cards.
Since we know that no trivia cards spawn when unsolved triva cards are in inventory, I think it can be assumed that the available cards to spawn are taken from a supply that is replenished like every 30 minutes or so by one card.

[Lugum]

Originally posted by Saegur:

After some experimentation, I think the spawn system is time based. After loading the save this morning I was able to find 5 Trivia cards. Then I saved and reloaded (quit game too) and no cards to be found. 3 hours later I found 4 Trivia cards.
Since we know that no trivia cards spawn when unsolved triva cards are in inventory, I think it can be assumed that the available cards to spawn are taken from a supply that is replenished like every 30 minutes or so by one card.

So real time based instead of in gameplay time?
So that means in essence you are "forced" to take breaks in between playtime if you want to catch as many at few goes?
I think this could have been better thought about, just having had them set, and maybe more would spawn immediately after you solved a few others, that would been fair.

[Mettanine]

I don't think it's time based. I'm currently playing on Casual, focusing mainly on the trivia cards. They are basically everywhere! Just following the main story, I run into cards in almost every location. I suppose if you miss one (which can happen easily apparently... I didn't see quite as many on my earlier playthroughs) it will seem to stop for a while. Perhaps for as long as you can still get to that missed one.

Anyway, I'm now in chapter iV and I've found about 20 cards over the course of ~1.5 hours. Definitely not time based.

[Saegur]

@Mettanine: The point is: Assume you miss all the cards. Now you restart the game. How long does it take to get all the cards?

[Saegur]

Just loaded back into the game, a save i did 4 hours ago. 5 Trivia Cards across all Melee Island locations. Then quit the game, loaded the same save, no cards.

So I am pretty sure it is at least to a certain degree time related (not playtime, but elapsed real time) maybe story/quest progression additionally refills the cards too.

[Cr3ePi0]

I got the feeling it was time based as well. down to my last card and can't get it to spawn anywhere...