Return to Monkey Island

Return to Monkey Island

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Windows 7?
According to the minimum requirements, Win7 are not supported - is this true?
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JimboYCS 2022年9月20日 10時41分 
I love the fact that OP asked the question and mostly got negative comments or just unhelpful. Honestly this entire OS war is so stupid lmao. I am still sitting on Windows 7, because 8 and 10 were greater dissopointments for me, but I am hoping that Windows 11 will gain better reputation, because I am kinda wonna to upgrade to something newer I guess lol.

Anyway, jumping on "cool train" is not always best decision, especially when you are not happy with these days new games. Like srlsy, most of good games are either Indies with rather low PC requierments which suprisingly still support Windows 7.

Not to mention that newer OS poorly support old games, which I am still enjoying so much. Most of the games that don't support W7 are bad anyway, I mean look at this game artstyle. Don't Starve looks 10 times better and I think it started as Browser game lol. I wonder how many of you folks even remember that...
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Sir Pootington の投稿を引用:
windows 7 is being completely phased out at this point. less and less games will support it and, unfortunately, Return to Monkey Island is among them
Thanks for a calm and helpful answer. People who have long since completely internalised the situation to which you refer are being sarcastic, rude, and even bordering on the abusive.

Call me behind the times but I don't change my computer even every 5 years. I'm on a remaindered Dell Optiplex 3020, Win7 Pro 64-bit SP1. I don't play selfconsciously high-spec technologically demanding games and I value continuity over novelty. I've worn the WASD and arrow keys to illegibility and only changed the HDD to a SSD 2 years ago when I had filled it. I upgraded from Win95 straight to 7 and that wasn't too uncomfortable, but when I tried to help a friend with a new laptop with 8.0 I practically had a breakdown and stopped taking any notice of Microsoft's new products. I despise the concept of platform merging, like that programs on a computer are now 'apps'. I have a PC, a games console, a tablet and a smartphone and there's not a thing I want any two of them to do beyond 'run a web browser'.

TLDR: I'm still on 7, hadn't got my head around it being outdated, and am pretty sad that I can't play this new game I just bought. Stop being d!cks to people like me.
its not difficult mate, W7 is dead. buy a new pc or udate your OS.
In fact, there is nothing in this game that requires Windows 10.
Now question is: commercially speaking, this game isn't too smart, since all Win 7 users (which still are a lot) won't ever be able to play it. This means that game authors just reduced the array of sales to Win 10 only and lost all Win 7 users. Commercially, this isn't bright, especially, let me say again, Windows 7 is an OS more than able to run a game like this.

To me, it's the stupid mania of publishers and developers of forcing people to buy a new equipment, even if they're not necessary.
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Thanks for a calm and helpful answer. People who have long since completely internalised the situation to which you refer are being sarcastic, rude, and even bordering on the abusive.

Call me behind the times but I don't change my computer even every 5 years. I'm on a remaindered Dell Optiplex 3020, Win7 Pro 64-bit SP1. I don't play selfconsciously high-spec technologically demanding games and I value continuity over novelty. I've worn the WASD and arrow keys to illegibility and only changed the HDD to a SSD 2 years ago when I had filled it. I upgraded from Win95 straight to 7 and that wasn't too uncomfortable, but when I tried to help a friend with a new laptop with 8.0 I practically had a breakdown and stopped taking any notice of Microsoft's new products. I despise the concept of platform merging, like that programs on a computer are now 'apps'. I have a PC, a games console, a tablet and a smartphone and there's not a thing I want any two of them to do beyond 'run a web browser'.

TLDR: I'm still on 7, hadn't got my head around it being outdated, and am pretty sad that I can't play this new game I just bought. Stop being d!cks to people like me.
its not difficult mate, W7 is dead. buy a new pc or udate your OS.

I agree. And what makes me sadder is the fact that there's nothing about RTMI that requires Windows 10. In terms of programming, it's just a matter of detect the OS and that's all. "IF (OS <> 10) or (OS <> 11) then --> WON'T RUN". There is no logical or technological need of Win 10 for a game like this. Period.

Consequently, and commercially speaking, this is clearly a very unintelligent way to reducing sales. But if the publisher wants to sell less and please less, then RTMI has won 1st place.
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There's Windows 11 already.
I am waiting for windows 13

ah ah ah! :)
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DOGS ORBS の投稿を引用:
Your loss.
I don't see any loss. When it comes to software, a product always beats a service.

That is almost hilarious, mate!
The loss is clearly seen:

1) Thousands of Win7 users won't be able to play (and won't pay for it);

2) opinions about RTMI not running under Win 7 are being ignored by the developer and publisher, which isn't a good sign of respect and comprehension also;

3) there's no REL need for this game to require Win10 apart from the fact it was deliberately programmed to work on Win10/11 only, based on the idea that everyone should recycle their old working computers that, please note, are still MORE than ABLE to run a game like this!
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The game will probably run fine on Windows 7, just not officially supported. Either way, it would be a risk to purchase it expecting support for 7 (which is honestly a much better OS than the ones which came after despite the snark of others here).

Question is: technologically speaking, this game isn't complex, so it has no needs for Win 10/11 only. Win 7 is more than enough to run 10x games like it simultaneously without any failures. :)
I would agree with Win10 only if the game was, indeed, a game that would push your system's and OS limits. That's not the case; not even closer to that case.
I'm trying to run this game on win7, not much luck so far - cant even get a splash screen.
Anyone else able to get it to run, or is there some kind of OS check in the code which immediately kicks you out?
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I'm trying to run this game on win7, not much luck so far - cant even get a splash screen.
Anyone else able to get it to run, or is there some kind of OS check in the code which immediately kicks you out?

Unfortunately, it won't run on Windows 7.
Nothing happens when you click the PLAY button.
TaKtLo$$ 2022年12月25日 20時11分 
Try Win XP instead? :jimmykid:
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I'm trying to run this game on win7, not much luck so far - cant even get a splash screen.
Anyone else able to get it to run, or is there some kind of OS check in the code which immediately kicks you out?

Unfortunately, it won't run on Windows 7.
Nothing happens when you click the PLAY button.

It can work! You just need VxKex: https://github.com/vxiiduu/VxKex/releases

After installing, configure RtMI exe: https://i.imgur.com/PMxxyUG.png
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Unfortunately, it won't run on Windows 7.
Nothing happens when you click the PLAY button.

It can work! You just need VxKex: https://github.com/vxiiduu/VxKex/releases

After installing, configure RtMI exe: https://i.imgur.com/PMxxyUG.png

I meant, without those programs. :)
It won't run normally.
There is big difference between "not supported" and "not compatible".

No game developer would list Windows 7 as supported system for new games, because as mentioned above even Microsoft ended official support for that system years ago.

Some of the new games however, - even those released in 2022 - are still fully playable on Windows 7 even though it's listed as not supported.

Good example are games build on Unreal Engine 4. There is simply nothing that would prevent the function of the software, and I suspect that many game developers who make their own proprietary engine for the game deliberately lock out Windows 7 not because the game wouldn't render correctly under OpenGL or older version of Direct3D, they might deliberately prevent the game to work on Windows 7 because they simply don't want to deal with customer support resolving the issues related to that old OS.

There are cases that game developers decided to write the game code with some more efficient instructions in programming language that require some libraries or system functions not present in older OS, and for that reason the game is not compatible, technically speaking however, there is often nothing that would prevent the game to work under e.g. Windows 7, but game devs decided to completely exclude any compatibility because because that version of the OS is obsolete and unsupported.
へいはち の投稿を引用:
There is big difference between "not supported" and "not compatible".

No game developer would list Windows 7 as supported system for new games, because as mentioned above even Microsoft ended official support for that system years ago.

Some of the new games however, - even those released in 2022 - are still fully playable on Windows 7 even though it's listed as not supported.

Good example are games build on Unreal Engine 4. There is simply nothing that would prevent the function of the software, and I suspect that many game developers who make their own proprietary engine for the game deliberately lock out Windows 7 not because the game wouldn't render correctly under OpenGL or older version of Direct3D, they might deliberately prevent the game to work on Windows 7 because they simply don't want to deal with customer support resolving the issues related to that old OS.

There are cases that game developers decided to write the game code with some more efficient instructions in programming language that require some libraries or system functions not present in older OS, and for that reason the game is not compatible, technically speaking however, there is often nothing that would prevent the game to work under e.g. Windows 7, but game devs decided to completely exclude any compatibility because because that version of the OS is obsolete and unsupported.


WHAT??
Do you have an idea what this Point and Click needs to run? That's absolutely ridiculous and commercially bad not to sell a game for Win 7 users when the requirements of RTMI are absolutely laughable when compared to other games that require real CPU/RAM specs.

It's not a matter of compatibility. There are no real compatibility issues with such "simple games". Even discontinued, Win 7 is pretty stable and compatible, so that compatibility argument is just a non-issue. It was a DECISION made by the programmers to be in line with what's commercially demanded, period. As I said before, Win 7 is capable of running RTMI pretty well without any performance or compatibility issues. In my opinion, making it "Win 10 only" was not a smart move, since there are thousands and thousands of Win 7 users and they won't upgrade to Win 10 because of RTMI. They will do it, in time, yes, but when games that obviously and clearly demand higher requirements force them to, not because a point and click adventure that pretends to be high-tec just forces them to.

At last, and commercially speaking, it was a pretty bad choice to make it "Win 10 only". Many sales lost.
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へいはち の投稿を引用:
There is big difference between "not supported" and "not compatible".

No game developer would list Windows 7 as supported system for new games, because as mentioned above even Microsoft ended official support for that system years ago.

Some of the new games however, - even those released in 2022 - are still fully playable on Windows 7 even though it's listed as not supported.

Good example are games build on Unreal Engine 4. There is simply nothing that would prevent the function of the software, and I suspect that many game developers who make their own proprietary engine for the game deliberately lock out Windows 7 not because the game wouldn't render correctly under OpenGL or older version of Direct3D, they might deliberately prevent the game to work on Windows 7 because they simply don't want to deal with customer support resolving the issues related to that old OS.

There are cases that game developers decided to write the game code with some more efficient instructions in programming language that require some libraries or system functions not present in older OS, and for that reason the game is not compatible, technically speaking however, there is often nothing that would prevent the game to work under e.g. Windows 7, but game devs decided to completely exclude any compatibility because because that version of the OS is obsolete and unsupported.


WHAT??
Do you have an idea what this Point and Click needs to run? That's absolutely ridiculous and commercially bad not to sell a game for Win 7 users when the requirements of RTMI are absolutely laughable when compared to other games that require real CPU/RAM specs.

It's not a matter of compatibility. There are no real compatibility issues with such "simple games". Even discontinued, Win 7 is pretty stable and compatible, so that compatibility argument is just a non-issue. It was a DECISION made by the programmers to be in line with what's commercially demanded, period. As I said before, Win 7 is capable of running RTMI pretty well without any performance or compatibility issues. In my opinion, making it "Win 10 only" was not a smart move, since there are thousands and thousands of Win 7 users and they won't upgrade to Win 10 because of RTMI. They will do it, in time, yes, but when games that obviously and clearly demand higher requirements force them to, not because a point and click adventure that pretends to be high-tec just forces them to.

At last, and commercially speaking, it was a pretty bad choice to make it "Win 10 only". Many sales lost.
except it isn't commercially viable (at least on Steam).

according to steam's own hardware survey , Windows 7 32-bit sits at the least popular (understandably) with 0.11% of users. in 3rd is Windows 7 64-bit with 1.66%.

1.66% of over 20 million people . while there were sales lost, it isn't a big enough number to make a difference on whether or not Windows 7 is supported
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