Why does the dragon create Arisen?

[Alastor]

What motivation does the dragon have for creating Arisen? Why would it want more powerful enemies? Boredom?

[The Ultimate Despair]

Because he is bored. And he needs a plaything.

[Fortie]

Because its not a "true" dragon ?

[Tenoshii]

Probably the same logic a master uses when sparring with an exceptionally skilled student: "Remember, I may have taught you everything you know, but not everything I know."

[The Beaphomet]

I never really understood the reason in Dark Arisen myself o _o
Maybe the Dragon is testing the mettle of humanity to see if there is some one worthy of "Godhood" or something.

[Nagandrea]

I thought it was explained in the old game? I heard it was A dragon created by the Seneschal or whatever supreme god of the cycle is, to seek out a human with enough willpower to defeat the god and take his place, because eternity as a god is boring

At least, that's what Infinite Cringe said in a youtube video about the game, idk myself, didn't look into the wikis

[Yato_ Heike]

Its also the only release from the "torment" of being a dragon. if you lose specifically to the dragon fight in DD1 you become the dragon. There is a cut scene for it.

[Derivat949]

He likes to do a bit of trolling once in a while.

[Kudy✨]

it's probably one of those things where it has always happened, sky is blue, grass is green, the Arisen fights a Dragon for the fate of the world, etc. From what I understand, those cast with being an Arisen will turn into Dragons if the Arisen fails some point after before the cycle begins again. imagine being an immortal giant lizard, you're gonna get bored after a millennia and just want something to fight you, to challenge you, you're gonna grow miffed that you can't be human anymore, that might create resentment, doubt in humanity, you want them to fight and prove themselves but they fail so easily.. you get bored, and boredom for a immortal being is practically torture, it becomes the constant thing you run from. The cycle continues, and there will always be a Dragon that wants humanity to prove itself and a Arisen to match that call in the span of multiple layers of existence, they are the one constant connecting the 'universe' of DD.

[Kudy✨]

Originally posted by Donoくの:

it's probably one of those things where it has always happened, sky is blue, grass is green, the Arisen fights a Dragon for the fate of the world, etc. From what I understand, those cast with being an Arisen will turn into Dragons if the Arisen fails some point after before the cycle begins again. imagine being an immortal giant lizard, you're gonna get bored after a millennia and just want something to fight you, to challenge you, you're gonna grow miffed that you can't be human anymore, that might create resentment, doubt in humanity, you want them to fight and prove themselves but they fail so easily.. you get bored, and boredom for a immortal being is practically torture, it becomes the constant thing you run from. The cycle continues, and there will always be a Dragon that wants humanity to prove itself and a Arisen to match that call in the span of multiple layers of existence, they are the one constant connecting the 'universe' of DD.

though I am at the end of post-game, want to finish BBI first (should I NG+ BBI?) and still have to meet Seneschal so

[Keith 'Blood' Hanson]

Originally posted by Yato_ Heike:

Its also the only release from the "torment" of being a dragon. if you lose specifically to the dragon fight in DD1 you become the dragon. There is a cut scene for it.

Really? I thought that was for losing to the Seneshchal?

But yes, every generation a Dragon chooses someone to try to exceed him And eventually try and rise to divinity.

HOWEVER, seems like the human kingdom has made a habit of naming their Sovran (See: King) as the current 'Arisen', they might be instead there to take up proper kingship. Unless *all* the Arisen have then failed and died, or all have...succeeded, then...went away... Makes it interesting to see where it'll go.

Just hoping the ending is a tad bit different this time around >.>

[Mu'Ammar of Carthus]

The actual number 1 purpose and priority of the Dragon is to force humanity to show their will to live, because if they don't, they will eventually wither and die as a species. So once in a while, the Dragon has to come and lit a fire under their arse.

But they can't fight back if they don't have amongst them a someone who can actually have a chance to best him, and it makes it MUCH easier to identify that person if the Dragon himself officially puts his stamp or approval on him.

Hence the Arisen.

All the other stuff like finding a new Seneschal or a new dragon if they can't make it is true too, but not as high on the list.

[Kudy✨]

it's like how the Force in Star Wars is kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrifying if you consider it's actual ramifications to the idea of human will. I'm guessing Seneschal put this entire cycle in place, a malevolent cycle that while creates powerful humans, also kills and destroys countless others for the sake of this god's boredom.

[Kudy✨]

Originally posted by Mu'Ammar of Carthus:

The actual number 1 purpose and priority of the Dragon is to force humanity to show their will to live, because if they don't, they will eventually wither a die as a species. So once in a while, the Dragon has to come and lit a fire under their arse.

But they can't fight back if they don't have amongst them a someone who can actually have a chance to best him, and it makes it MUCH easier to identify that person if the Dragon himself officially puts his stamp or approval on him.

Hence the Arisen.

All the other stuff like finding a new Seneschal or a new dragon if they can't make it is true too, but not as high on the list.

makes sense

[footsoljer]

Originally posted by Donoくの:

it's probably one of those things where it has always happened, sky is blue, grass is green, the Arisen fights a Dragon for the fate of the world, etc. From what I understand, those cast with being an Arisen will turn into Dragons if the Arisen fails some point after before the cycle begins again. imagine being an immortal giant lizard, you're gonna get bored after a millennia and just want something to fight you, to challenge you, you're gonna grow miffed that you can't be human anymore, that might create resentment, doubt in humanity, you want them to fight and prove themselves but they fail so easily.. you get bored, and boredom for a immortal being is practically torture, it becomes the constant thing you run from. The cycle continues, and there will always be a Dragon that wants humanity to prove itself and a Arisen to match that call in the span of multiple layers of existence, they are the one constant connecting the 'universe' of DD.

You are leaving out the part where the "god" of the world sent the dragon down to create arisen to hopefully replace the current god. The whole point of the dragon is to find a replacement "god". This has all been established and takes only a small amount of research.

[Kudy✨]

Originally posted by footsoljer:

You are leaving out the part where the "god" of the world sent the dragon down to create arisen to hopefully replace the current god. The whole point of the dragon is to find a replacement "god". This has all been established and takes only a small amount of research.

Originally posted by Donoくの:

though I am at the end of post-game, want to finish BBI first (should I NG+ BBI?) and still have to meet Seneschal so