Thompson vs MP40

[chrsdzj]

Why the hell is MP40 at BT 2 and Thompson at BT4?

[⛧Blasphemous⛧]

Im using BR1 and BR2 weapons, vehicles and squads as an USA player and it says im getting matchmaked with BR1-3 people.

Is it normal that I keep seeing many MP-40s against my M3 Grease Gun???

[Ginko]

Originally posted by ⛧Blasphemous⛧:

Im using BR1 and BR2 weapons, vehicles and squads as an USA player and it says im getting matchmaked with BR1-3 people.

Is it normal that I keep seeing many MP-40s against my M3 Grease Gun???

It's normal to see MP40 spam from germutts even when you're on your first bolt action rifle, before you've even unlocked engineers, and it doesn't ever stop.

[⛧Blasphemous⛧]

Originally posted by Ginko:

Originally posted by ⛧Blasphemous⛧:

Im using BR1 and BR2 weapons, vehicles and squads as an USA player and it says im getting matchmaked with BR1-3 people.

Is it normal that I keep seeing many MP-40s against my M3 Grease Gun???

It's normal to see MP40 spam from germutts even when you're on your first bolt action rifle, before you've even unlocked engineers, and it doesn't ever stop.

I played many(maybe all) ww2 games as American/Allies faction. German MP-34 is usually equal to American M3A1 submachine gun while MP-40 is equal to M1A1 Thompson. Weirdly even many "noob" Germany players using it everywhere in Enlisted. It's unbalanced af when compared to other ww2 fps games.

[Thavo]

in this game its not equal you can check stats in your tech tree thomson its far superior to mp 40

[VeeVee]

Originally posted by ⛧Blasphemous⛧:

Originally posted by Ginko:

It's normal to see MP40 spam from germutts even when you're on your first bolt action rifle, before you've even unlocked engineers, and it doesn't ever stop.

I played many(maybe all) ww2 games as American/Allies faction. German MP-34 is usually equal to American M3A1 submachine gun while MP-40 is equal to M1A1 Thompson. Weirdly even many "noob" Germany players using it everywhere in Enlisted. It's unbalanced af when compared to other ww2 fps games.

Thompson is far better than the MP-40, there's also BR II Thompsons but they're event/premium ones with the 20 round magazines, and they absolutely shred.
I usually don't take the MP-40 as Germany, I take the Beretta M1918 because of it's high fire rate, slow fire rate SMGs aren't great if you're playing aggressive.
Owens is my go-to for allies BR II when it comes to non-event/premium SMGs, has a good fire rate, only issue is the magazine blocks your peripherals.

Also here's the stats for the MP-40 (unupgraded) BR II
500 RPM
5.8 damage
Vertical recoil of 30
Horizontal of 10
Magazine of 32

Thompson M1928 USMC (premium) BR II
810 RPM
8.2 damage
Vertical recoil of 40
Horizontal of 10
Magazine of 20

Thompson M1A1 variant (unupgraded) BR III
600 RPM
8.7 damage
Vertical recoil of 40
Horzontal of 15
Magazine of 30

Thompson M1928A1 variant (unupgraded) BR III
700 RPM
8.7 damage
Vertical recoil of 32
Horizontal of 22
Magazine of 30

[⛧Blasphemous⛧]

Originally posted by VeeVee:

Originally posted by ⛧Blasphemous⛧:

I played many(maybe all) ww2 games as American/Allies faction. German MP-34 is usually equal to American M3A1 submachine gun while MP-40 is equal to M1A1 Thompson. Weirdly even many "noob" Germany players using it everywhere in Enlisted. It's unbalanced af when compared to other ww2 fps games.

Thompson is far better than the MP-40, there's also BR II Thompsons but they're event/premium ones with the 20 round magazines, and they absolutely shred.
I usually don't take the MP-40 as Germany, I take the Beretta M1918 because of it's high fire rate, slow fire rate SMGs aren't great if you're playing aggressive.
Owens is my go-to for allies BR II when it comes to non-event/premium SMGs, has a good fire rate, only issue is the magazine blocks your peripherals.

Also here's the stats for the MP-40 (unupgraded) BR II
500 RPM
5.8 damage
Vertical recoil of 30
Horizontal of 10
Magazine of 32

Thompson M1928 USMC (premium) BR II
810 RPM
8.2 damage
Vertical recoil of 40
Horizontal of 10
Magazine of 20

Thompson M1A1 variant (unupgraded) BR III
600 RPM
8.7 damage
Vertical recoil of 40
Horzontal of 15
Magazine of 30

Thompson M1928A1 variant (unupgraded) BR III
700 RPM
8.7 damage
Vertical recoil of 32
Horizontal of 22
Magazine of 30

There are many variants(maybe around 10) of mp 38/40 but for some reason you used the mp40 only with Thompsons from different BRs. Let's not manipulate anything to show Germany weak bro. It's broken when you look at the winrates.

Also, slightly better rpm and damage could be covered with iron sights difference. Thompson is made for hip fire unlike mp40 so mp40 is much better at range.

[JagdPanzer IV]

Originally posted by chrsdzj:

Why the hell is MP40 at BT 2 and Thompson at BT4?

caliber most likely. mp40 is 9mm, thompson is .45

[Yuri]

Dont use Tommy dude, only good Tommy is 1928 models and they are starting from br3. Use Lanchester and M3A1 whose are bt2 , those things are really rock, each in own way! Much more superior than Tommys.

[Corinarh]

Thompson has much faster rof and dmg per bullet, while mp40 is the worst smg of br2

[⛧Blasphemous⛧]

Originally posted by Corinarh:

Thompson has much faster rof and dmg per bullet, while mp40 is the worst smg of br2

Meanwhile Thompson is in br 4-5 but mp40 is br2 lmao

Edit: Keep giving me your hard earned steam points. I enjoy milking off imbeciles' steam points to get some cool avatars and backgrounds for free:)

[RetroNaze]

Meanwhile, the US has very good weapons that fill the lack of diversity in SmG, the M3A1 with not much recoil and Lanchester which has a fairly high rate of fire, the US has Auto 5 which are 5-shot semi-automatic shotguns, which the Germans do not have, since they are 2-shot hunting rifles. The US also has a greater diversity of BR 2 snipers which vary from the X8 to the X4 scope when the Germans are limited to X4. The US has much better planes all BRs combined when the Germans have better tanks all BRs combined.

And if you want to know, I am German BR V and US BR V (Soon), USSR BR V and Japanese BR II. So no, I am not trying to defend the balancing of a specific faction. Each faction has its strengths and weaknesses, it is up to the player to choose which one is more suited to his style of play.

And by the way, the MP 40 was the weapon I liked the most, thanks to its sights, not because it has better stats. The M3A1 is much easier to master (less recoil, more damage, in return it has a lower rate of fire which also allows you to keep your sights on the bad guys in full auto.)

[Corinarh]

Originally posted by ⛧Blasphemous⛧:

Originally posted by Corinarh:

Thompson has much faster rof and dmg per bullet, while mp40 is the worst smg of br2

Meanwhile Thompson is in br 4-5 but mp40 is br2 lmao

Edit: Keep giving me your hard earned steam points. I enjoy milking off imbeciles' steam points to get some cool avatars and backgrounds for free:)

First 20 round Thompsons are at br2, 30 round are at BR3 (and rightfully so) and later at br4-5. Kid you have no clue what you are talking about.

[⛧Blasphemous⛧]

Originally posted by Corinarh:

Originally posted by ⛧Blasphemous⛧:

Meanwhile Thompson is in br 4-5 but mp40 is br2 lmao

Edit: Keep giving me your hard earned steam points. I enjoy milking off imbeciles' steam points to get some cool avatars and backgrounds for free:)

First 20 round Thompsons are at br2, 30 round are at BR3 (and rightfully so) and later at br4-5. Kid you have no clue what you are talking about.

Son, there are mp40s all over the research tree. Just go check it.

Also it's extremely unfair to compare a premium weapon to low br silver weapon. You should be comparing premium thompson to premium German weapons. Btw it seems like I achieved the marshal rank after 50 hours when you didn't after 650 hours lmfao. Perhaps I'm not the clueless one here. Got rekt huhh^^

Available Thompson(s) & Machinepistoles(MP) In The Research Tree:
M1A1 Thompson BR 4
M1928A1 Thompson BR 4
M1 Thompson BR 4
Thompson M21/28 BR 4
M1928A1 Thompson 50 BR 5
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FNAB-43 BR 2
MP-38 BR 3
Beretta M1 BR 3
MP-40 BR3


Available Thompson(s) & Machinepistoles(MP) In The Premium Tree:
Thompson 7.63 BR 2
M1928A1 Thompson 100 BR 5
-
MP-719(r) BR 2
TZ-45 BR 3

Now let's stop crying when we compare br 5 thompson to mp40 to make Germany look weak. It's not true. Next time compare the same weapons to each other. Let me tell you something, Allies have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ M3 grease gun variants and British smgs until they unlock thompson at br 4. MP variants are superior in every way against them. Even the premium thompson isn't a great option since it's a much weaker version of the normal thompson. And yeah you think it's ok to spam full automatic good mid range smg with 30 rounds magazine against bolt action noobs. That's cringe bro. Go brainrot yourself more as the strongest faction Germany and then come here to complain more.

[Yuri]

I say m1 tommy (br3 currently) is as bad as mp 40, so it should be br 2. Didnt researched TT mp40 but with silenced version i was not amused, seems like mediocre gun.

Beretta on other side are pretty decent and available in research tree earlier. So nazis should have no problems picking right gun.

On the other hand allies DOESEN EVEN NEED to use Tommys aside if you want to roleplay or you already got them.

There is much better guns on br 2 which will carry you on br 3 and so on. And on br5 you dont need to use them also,there is muck more versatile or powerful automatic gun options in TT now.

But if you managed to get .30 acp Tommys its a whole different story, great carbine replacement for pilots. Shoot it in semiato mode, you wont run out of ammo for a long time and every 2 shots will get you a kill on mid distances.

EDIT; Im a little wrong here, i got chinese tommy 7.63 squad and its great. Used leftover moneys from steam refunds. TT versions is mostly meh.

[Yuri]

Originally posted by ⛧Blasphemous⛧:

M1A1 Thompson BR 4
M1928A1 Thompson BR 4

Dude , those are br3 weapons , they just located in Tier 4 TT .