How do you Non-Lethal Granny Rags [SPOILER]?

[X-Stat1c]

So I'm replaying dishonored, this time on Very Hard, trying for Ghost, Shadow & Clean Hands. However, I feel like the SlackJaw/ Granny confrontation will mess up my hope of getting Clean Hands. Is there a way to Non-Lethal Granny in this confrontation?

[Cephiyo]

Yes, you have to destroy the medallion without being seen. Then, she'll come to you and all you need to do is to take her from behind and choke her.

[A7_Zealot]

I just did a Clean Hands play through and for some reason, I still haven't figured it out, I didn't even need to confront Granny Rags in the later stages of the game. The grotto that she has Slackjaw chained up in was closed off and the door that is usually locked for which she has the key, was already unlocked and Weepers in the sewer weren't Weepers but ordinary uninfected citizens. Despite this I got Ghost, Shadow, Specter, Faceless and Clean Hands (among other) achievements.

[Lime.Frickin.Green]

If you play through without doing the all of the sidequests for granny and slackjaw there wont be a confrontation in the sewer.

[World's best Fox]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lime.Frickin.Green:

If you play through without doing the all of the sidequests for granny and slackjaw there wont be a confrontation in the sewer.

the point is they are doing a non-lethal run. so they have to do slackjaw

[chickadeedeedee]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wolfer the Wolf:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lime.Frickin.Green:

If you play through without doing the all of the sidequests for granny and slackjaw there wont be a confrontation in the sewer.

the point is they are doing a non-lethal run. so they have to do slackjaw

nah, you never have to talk to either of them unless you want their presents

Ursprünglich geschrieben von A7_Zealot:

I just did a Clean Hands play through and for some reason, I still haven't figured it out, I didn't even need to confront Granny Rags in the later stages of the game. The grotto that she has Slackjaw chained up in was closed off and the door that is usually locked for which she has the key, was already unlocked and Weepers in the sewer weren't Weepers but ordinary uninfected citizens. Despite this I got Ghost, Shadow, Specter, Faceless and Clean Hands (among other) achievements.

^and this is why it's really best not to talk to them when you're just going for achievements. If you don't finish their questlines, the final confrontation never occurs, because you never play a role in exacerbating their conflict.

The uninfected citizens thing is solely dependent on chaos level I think?

[Capn_Tucker]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von a penguin:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wolfer the Wolf:

the point is they are doing a non-lethal run. so they have to do slackjaw

nah, you never have to talk to either of them unless you want their presents

Ursprünglich geschrieben von A7_Zealot:

I just did a Clean Hands play through and for some reason, I still haven't figured it out, I didn't even need to confront Granny Rags in the later stages of the game. The grotto that she has Slackjaw chained up in was closed off and the door that is usually locked for which she has the key, was already unlocked and Weepers in the sewer weren't Weepers but ordinary uninfected citizens. Despite this I got Ghost, Shadow, Specter, Faceless and Clean Hands (among other) achievements.

^and this is why it's really best not to talk to them when you're just going for achievements. If you don't finish their questlines, the final confrontation never occurs, because you never play a role in exacerbating their conflict.

The uninfected citizens thing is solely dependent on chaos level I think?

The number of weepers is dependent on your chaos level, and also whether you did Grannie Rag's quest to infect the elixir still. Even with a low chaos level, if you infect the still there will be a sh.it ton of weepers in later levels..

[ChevyNoel]

If you do all of those side quests, you can still get the key from Granny when she has SlackJaw chained up, without causing problems for those achievements.

IIRC, what you need to do is pickpocket the key from Granny. When you do this she starts to go hostile and do her teleporting thing, so as soon as you get the key, you need to blink to the back of the room where you can use the key and leave before she has a chance to actually see you.

[flipfloppie]

I just played this part today. I came in, looted, took the cameo, went down and talked to Granny and accepted her offer to help. Then I went back upstairs, burned the cameo and blinked away. Once I was able to approach her with stealth, I shot her with a sleep dart. Then I unlocked Slackjaw, opened the door, took the rune and left. It did NOT count as a kill and I still got Ghost as well :) And I got the Slackjaw acheivement to boot.

[Scaredog20]

just shoot her with a traq for non leathal. But if you want ghost you should just never talk to her and she wont be in the sewers at the end of the game. If you messed up and gave her the time of day then freeze time steal key and run away. If you want to save slackjaw then drick water with the mana restore with water ruin, then steal the item on her bed and place it in the furnace, then tranq her, youll need to freeze time several times.

[World's best Fox]

unknown circumstances (as far as i no ghost run) you won't have to deal with granny at all. it will be closed off and the door will be unlocked. no thug either

[ChevyNoel]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wolfer the Wolf:

unknown circumstances (as far as i no ghost run) you won't have to deal with granny at all. it will be closed off and the door will be unlocked. no thug either

That happens when you don't do their side quests in previous missions.

[World's best Fox]

...i was doing a ghost run.... so i had to do slackjaw's

[ChevyNoel]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wolfer the Wolf:

...i was doing a ghost run.... so i had to do slackjaw's

Doing only part of what is required for the scene to occur does not guarantee that the scene will occur.

[World's best Fox]

what?

[World's best Fox]

look i didn't have to kill either. it didnt give me the choice. the door was unlocked. ghost run complete