Dishonored
TheVoiid Oct 28, 2012 @ 8:38am
Harm's Way achievement
I have absolutely no idea how to get the achievement "Harm's Way - Cause 5 unintentional suicides". I've tried different things like letting them get killed by an Arc Pylon/Wall of Light (Either alerted or not), possessing someone and walking off a cliff/into water (That only ended up with me being dead, and the other guy I guess :)), trying to stop time just when they shoot a bullet and then possess the guy and put him in front of the bullet (This is extremely tricky to time right and I'm not sure if I even succeeded once... Maybe it would go easier with Time Bend 1?).

Could someone please enlighten me on how to get this achievement?
Last edited by TheVoiid; Oct 28, 2012 @ 8:39am
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mabd Oct 28, 2012 @ 9:04am 
I think that should work, but I have the same problem. I think it's bugged? I've read of people that got it and people that did the same thing and didn't. The Time Bend 2 thing should work, but I did it more than 5 times and got nothing. unless it's supposed to be in one life, which I doubt...
TheVoiid Oct 28, 2012 @ 9:23am 
Yeah I've also checked on YouTube about it and there they did it in the Lady Boyle Party mission by possessing party guests and putting them in the Wall of Light. That worked for some and not for others. I've just been trying it and it doesn't work for me either...
Deer'sVoice Oct 28, 2012 @ 9:53am 
I did it with overseers (white mask guys). I used bend time when they granaded me and i killed them with there nades.
Alex_G_Art Oct 28, 2012 @ 12:27pm 
I just got this achievement today, the wall of light method is far easier to do and actually works, but it IS indeed glitched! In order to make it work, you need to do it in a very specific way:

At Lady Boyle's party, walk a CIVILLIAN into the wall of light WITHOUT rewiring it. Do not use soldiers, any of the Boyle sisters or maids, it won't work with any them.
TheVoiid Oct 28, 2012 @ 12:41pm 
Thanks a lot Ale_Camargo!

I just got the achievement as well. Like you said, I didn't mess with the Wall of Light and just possessed party guests (No guards, maids, or Boyle sisters) and dropped them in the Wall of Light and the achievement popped up.

I guess this one could be added to the buggy achievement pile (I should've gotten "Clean Hands" and "Shadow" as well but didn't, I've read those are buggy too).
ibacondors Nov 24, 2012 @ 5:08pm 
The part that also needs to be said is to exit the posession just short of the wall. They'll fall into the wall and you remain safe...except your cover is blown.
Last edited by ibacondors; Nov 24, 2012 @ 5:09pm
rice_cocktail Dec 28, 2012 @ 10:45pm 
Originally posted by TheVoiid:
I just got the achievement as well. Like you said, I didn't mess with the Wall of Light and just possessed party guests (No guards, maids, or Boyle sisters) and dropped them in the Wall of Light and the achievement popped up.

Works if you do it in one life. The achivements need to be more descriptive.
Last edited by rice_cocktail; Dec 28, 2012 @ 10:50pm
kelticpete Mar 18, 2014 @ 3:00pm 
I tried this like 5 times. I have never been able to get more than 4 guests. they all run away so fast from the party. in the save game I have for boyle party for some reason their are a million guards once the fight starts. I actually had fifth guest possessed once but damn overseer screwed it up. is this the ONLY way to get it?

Last edited by kelticpete; Mar 18, 2014 @ 3:01pm
Ladez Mar 20, 2014 @ 7:03am 
Originally posted by TheVoiid:
I guess this one could be added to the buggy achievement pile (I should've gotten "Clean Hands" and "Shadow" as well but didn't, I've read those are buggy too).

To be fair, this is actually how it is intended to work. By rewiring the wall of light, it becomes an intentional homicide by you. Normally, authorized people - guards, boyle family - would be safe walking through the gate. But if it is rewired, it doesn't count as a suicide because authorized people would assume that they were safe. In other words - burning to a crisp would come as a surprise to them.

If you leave the wall untouched and use party guests, however, it counts as a suicide because the guests know damn well not to go near the wall of light, lest they want to get burned to a crisp. By walking a guest into the wall that they know not to go into, then it becomes a suicide.

So the action taken at first - rewiring the wall - really makes quite the difference, and it makes sense in the context of the game. I'm quite interested actually, in whether the subject of a possession is aware of his or her actions in the possessed state, according to the lore.

I'd also like to know if deaths that goes towards unintentional suicides actually counts as kills. Does anyone know this?

Originally posted by kelticpete:
I tried this like 5 times. I have never been able to get more than 4 guests. they all run away so fast from the party. in the save game I have for boyle party for some reason their are a million guards once the fight starts. I actually had fifth guest possessed once but damn overseer screwed it up. is this the ONLY way to get it?

Nope, but it is the easiest. It helps if you start by possessing the guards, so you can walk them away and neutralize them silently. I did this and walked their bodies into the room with the wall of light generator, where I would either kill them or incapacitate them. Afterwards, possess and walk a guest into the wall of light, only when there is no other guest to witness them dying.

Originally posted by Ale_Camargo:
I just got this achievement today, the wall of light method is far easier to do and actually works, but it IS indeed glitched! In order to make it work, you need to do it in a very specific way:

At Lady Boyle's party, walk a CIVILLIAN into the wall of light WITHOUT rewiring it. Do not use soldiers, any of the Boyle sisters or maids, it won't work with any them.

What is glitchy about it? Should the Boyles allow guests to walk through their wall of light? Read my explanation to the other guy in this post.
Last edited by Ladez; Mar 20, 2014 @ 7:07am
TheVoiid Mar 20, 2014 @ 8:38am 
Yes Ladez, that does indeed make sense :)
600piecesof8 Jul 22, 2014 @ 2:54pm 
Hm, just read it, but the same should work with walking possessed people into hagfish pools or off a cliff?
Also, using the described Boyle Party trick, it should be possible to possess 5 guests, walk them near the Wall of Light and then windblast them into it in one go w/o having to worry 'bout running masked aristocrates... ;)
Last edited by 600piecesof8; Jul 22, 2014 @ 2:58pm
kelticpete Jul 22, 2014 @ 3:21pm 
I have not done this but a key would be to walk the guard into a bathroom. then he will be further away. I found that by the time I got the 4th person through the electricity all the guests had fled and I could not find another.
vezwyx the tiny Jul 26, 2016 @ 11:38am 
Originally posted by TheVoiid:

I should've gotten "Clean Hands" and "Shadow" as well but didn't, I've read those are buggy too.

I had no problem getting the achievements in the same run (that's the Ghost achievement). You're sure you ghosted every level?

Originally posted by 600piecesof8:
Also, using the described Boyle Party trick, it should be possible to possess 5 guests, walk them near the Wall of Light and then windblast them into it in one go w/o having to worry 'bout running masked aristocrates... ;)

Yeah, windblasting people into a Wall of Light definitely doesn't count as them committing suicide
Last edited by vezwyx the tiny; Jul 26, 2016 @ 11:38am
Arasteele Mar 19, 2018 @ 2:01pm 
Here's how to get the Harm's Way Achievement (No BS):

The following was done on the "Very Hard" difficulty setting.

Must have the second level of Possession power, obviously. Also a very good idea to have all 10 mana potions in your inventory, as you'll need them.

1. Steal the security closet key off the guard standing nearest the wall of light. Unlock the door
on said closet but do not go in.
2. Head into the pool table room (the same room as the closet door is in) and take up position so you can see the overseer. When there's not many others areound, possess him, walk him into the security closet, close door behind you, release and kill him. Be careful not to release him too close to the whale oil canisters or they'll blow up, killing you and the guard. Dump his body on the other side of the crates in there, thus hiding him. Exit closet as stealthily as possible.
3. Possess guard closest to the WOL, kill and dispose of him in the same way as step 2.
4. NOW you should be able to start possessing guests and walking them near the wall of light, near enough so when you release them they stumble into it and get zapped.
CAREFUL -- If a maid sees you as you release a guest and become yourself they will alert the guards. ALSO.... a second overseer may start patrolling through this area of the party from time to time, so be vigilant. Don't waste mana walking him to the closet, just let him walk his route, you'll have plenty of time to "do the guests" who are in the near vicinity. (However, there was this one guard who kept walking near me in the pool table room, and he would kick me saying "move along", or "Put that way and get out".... so I took him to the closet, and quite happily so got rid of him).

MORE TIPS: At one point there were two guests just standing in the foyer (near to the guestbook), and they would see me every time I did a guest suicide. SOLUTION: I possessed one of those two, walked him into the pool table room and released him there, getting him out of the way. Then I possessed and walked the other one into the WOL, then went back and took him out.

None of the guards, maids, or Boyle sisters are eligible for this achievement.
Do NOT rewire the wall of light. Repeat: DO NOT REWIRE the wall of light.

This method worked the very first time I tried it, achievement aquired after the first 5 guests.
Last edited by Arasteele; Mar 19, 2018 @ 2:03pm
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