The Flooded District - always 1 kill

[Dr.Drey]

Ran this mission 3 times. Always with ghost, but also always with 1 freaking kill from somewhere. I've tried many variations on the Granny vs Slackjaw segment but still no luck. Any suggestions?

Thanks

[Tirigon]

Most likely some unconscious weeper or guard got eaten by rats, or maybe some assassin you sleepdarted dropped too far down.

[Wezilla]

Pick up unconscious / dead body to upper on the table etc because of rats...

[Xara]

The Granny Vs. Slackjaw variation you need to do is "Don't ever do missions for them earlier in the game then neither of them shows up here"

[Kenny32673]

Originally posted by Xara:

The Granny Vs. Slackjaw variation you need to do is "Don't ever do missions for them earlier in the game then neither of them shows up here"

Well you only need to avoid Granny Rags' missions. You have to do Slackjaws missions, expecially if you want Clean Hands since he helps you get rid of your targets non-lethally.

The only way I know of if you do have Granny Rags at this point is to steal the key and get out of there without her seeing you, so freeze time and blink are especially helpful at this point.

[Jamison]

If you sleep dart Granny or Slackjaw, the game will count that against you as a kill. Easiest way to clear the encounter is to steal Granny's key, then turn around and go back the way you came ignoring any loot from that area.

[scrunt]

Originally posted by Jamison:

If you sleep dart Granny or Slackjaw, the game will count that against you as a kill. Easiest way to clear the encounter is to steal Granny's key, then turn around and go back the way you came ignoring any loot from that area.

Actually, if you sleep dart Granny Rags after burning her doll thingy it counts as a normal unconscious.

[Smilodon]

Originally posted by Bard:

Actually, if you sleep dart Granny Rags after burning her doll thingy it counts as a normal unconscious.

I was telling someone this in another thread, then went back and tested it again - apparently they changed it in an update or something, because if you Sleep Dart her, she dies - it won't even say (Unconscious) as you look at her. Choking her out after you destroy the cameo will KO her though.

[Tirigon]

Originally posted by Smilodon:

Actually, if you sleep dart Granny Rags after burning her doll thingy it counts as a normal unconscious.

I was telling someone this in another thread, then went back and tested it again - apparently they changed it in an update or something, because if you Sleep Dart her, she dies - it won't even say (Unconscious) as you look at her. Choking her out after you destroy the cameo will KO her though.

Well that is weird as hell. Normally sleepdarts and choking should have absolutely identical effects.

Could it be that when you shot her she fell down and died from the fall, which doesnt happen when choking?

[Smilodon]

Originally posted by Tirigon:

Could it be that when you shot her she fell down and died from the fall, which doesnt happen when choking?

She was inside the room with the bed and furnace - nowhere to fall.
edit: Just ran through a second time, tranq'd her again, and this time she's (Unconscious). Not sure what happened the first time, maybe the fall from the bed to the floor killed her. She is pretty old, after all.

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[Lunar Ghost]

Btw just played the most recently updated version of the game- it STILL counts as a civilian casualty. Waited until the cameo was destroy on Granny Rags and sleep darted her, say her "unconscious" tag on her body, and it STILL COUNTED.

Just avoid her friends.

[cyberwiz97]

That's odd. There was a bug about this but it was fixed in update v1.7. Since then, I've played the Granny/Slackjaw confrontation practically every which way possible and sleep darting her only once caused her death, but that was because she fell off her 'landing zone' to her death. Otherwise, the sleep dart was never the cause of her being counted as a kill, for me.

I'd suggest some other civilian or weeper was the reason for your 'kill'.

Edit: If you're willing to invest a little more time into working on this problem, you can start this mission from the beginning and play as non-lethal and stealthily as possible and, when you get to the gate leading to the Granny/Slackjaw area, do a manual save of your game. Then, do the short-cut method and simply steal the key off Granny and run or blink away. (Don't worry about her seeing you. Right now, you're only trying to determine if you've had a kill prior to this point.) Leave the area and continue to the end of the mission. Check your stats to be sure there were no kills. Now, load your saved game and do the Granny/Slackjaw thing again, this time in your usual way, sleep darting Granny. I think you'll find you have no kills. but, If you do get a 'civilian killed', then that's pretty good evidence for a bug. And, if that's the case, I'd really like to know the details of how you're doing this.

[CompanyofHeroes_thankSpielberg]

Is the path to Granny Rags's place in the hallway leading to the door that says "Dunwall Sewers Master Key needed"? The hallway is what you drop into, when you open the gate on the floor with the valve.

[krotomo]

Just want to confirm the Granny Rags bug still exists in 2022! Followed the instructions by cyberwiz97, sleep darting her or choking her both led to 1 civilian kill, while ignoring her completely led to 0. So glad I saw this thread before I replayed the mission :D

[Lar Dass]

Originally posted by krotomo:

Just want to confirm the Granny Rags bug still exists in 2022! Followed the instructions by cyberwiz97, sleep darting her or choking her both led to 1 civilian kill, while ignoring her completely led to 0. So glad I saw this thread before I replayed the mission :D

ignoring the fight and stealing the key and rushing away is how you get 0 kills, i stole the key, granny fought slackjaw, and he killed her and it still said 0 kills but didnt get the achievement so when slackjaw killed her the game did not understand how she could have possibly died without the player's help and thus gave me a ghost kill

[Talon]

Originally posted by Tirigon:

Originally posted by Smilodon:

I was telling someone this in another thread, then went back and tested it again - apparently they changed it in an update or something, because if you Sleep Dart her, she dies - it won't even say (Unconscious) as you look at her. Choking her out after you destroy the cameo will KO her though.

Well that is weird as hell. Normally sleepdarts and choking should have absolutely identical effects.

Could it be that when you shot her she fell down and died from the fall, which doesnt happen when choking?

You could say that because of her advanced age that the poison in the darts actually killed her instead of making her go to sleep.