Dishonored
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M Jul 22, 2013 @ 4:15pm
The textures are laughably bad
I don't mind the painted brush style they used, but the resolution of some of these textures are a joke for a game that came out in 2012. Heck, games had better textures 10 years ago. And you have to mod the game to get more than 5 bodies on a map at once? Seriously? Thief could handle this back in the 90s.

It's clear that the devs put ZERO effort into making this PC port any good. Here's some screenshots from the game. Maxed settings, 1080p.

http://i.imgur.com/N1CPBcE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JLlZB65.jpg
Last edited by M; Jul 30, 2013 @ 5:24pm
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TILG Aug 14, 2013 @ 2:48pm 
Yeah, the textures aren't omg-they-are-so-great-I-have-never-seen-so-realistic-textures-in-my-entire-life, but games have flaws even triple A titles, and they will always have. But of course there must be people like you who complain about pointless things, that other players don't mind and not because they are "ignorant", but because they have so much fun actually playing the game rather than taking screenshots of the "laughably bad textures".

Also "ZERO effort"? Please go and do it better.
The Nothing Man Aug 14, 2013 @ 2:54pm 
oh dont get me wrong i was just saying take better shots not ones of posters on a wall

as for ports.. huh how can u equate the false cell style shading of borderlands to anything else,
id compare this game to that, minus the drawn looking graphics,
same kinda bland environment with not to much detail, but again this was for consoles so the load wasnt so much on the system, but on a pc, high res textures need to exist.

i dont even think skyrim looks very good without mods, as thats another port
and from the same company diff team,


I have loads of fun playing dishonored and prefer it over every title you listed, low texture res or not, ill waste more time on dishonored than borderlands, as its just diablow fps, and to repetitive, never liked bf games, did like cod original and moh but not bf anything, worthless gaming there.

there are many ports that are revamped for pc, and even like i said have HIRES texture dlc packs free from steam, just for pc,
to answer the question, many ports were revamped for pc to look better
AC3 is a prime example, and yes i like dishonored more then ac3
but the gfx for ac3 vs a xbox vs a pc.. pc just wins hands down after its texture pack update which came after the 2nd dlc i believe,

Sedina Aug 14, 2013 @ 2:58pm 
As long as games must come out on current-generation consoles, you will see the graphical versatility suffer. This is why there are only a few "bodies" for male and female NPCs - consoles just don't have the capacity for ridiculous amounts of art assets.

Personally, I found that annoying enough to be a noticeable minus... but it was one "minus" in what was, overall, game of the year for me. I spent hours combing the hidden paths of Dishonored.

What I find much mroe heinous in the PC-games-on-a-console issue is that of control schemes; a console has a controller, and a controller does not have even one-one hundredth the options for button input combinations that a keyboard has. Games such as Skyrim suffered HORRIBLY from this. In Dishonored, though, it's not a big deal since it was designed to be more "actiony" from the start.

In Skrrim, for example, you have a world that boasts hundreds of spells and weapon combinations. With the advent of both right- and left-handed casting, you could come up with thousands of possible variations. A controller simply does not, can not, handle that with any grace. The afterthought of using some of the number keys on the keyboard was terribly implemented (dual wield did not even function) and only allowed for... 8? different ability combos out of thousands. Want to set a customized healing potion and a mana potion? That's two of your 8.

Anyway, it's a derail, but I agree that the art assets would have been improved if there were more of them.
Last edited by Sedina; Aug 14, 2013 @ 3:07pm
bubbacho Aug 14, 2013 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by The Milkman:
It's supposed to look like an oil painting. I suppose you've never heard of that before, have you? The game looks fantastic.

I think most players don't even know what "Impressionism" even is, clearly the OP doesn't. The design concept was based on the same vibe one would get from the works of Monet,Bazille, Boudin, or Caillbotte. Combine that with Steampunk and you have the artistic style of Dishonored. It's supposed to look like that. I just finished the "Witches" dlc and the level design and artwork in the Estate is some of the most beautiful and atmospheric work to date. Only Bioshock Infinite is in the same ballpark. Don't get me wrong, I love the hyper-realism of a game like Crysis 3. I didn't spend five grand on a custom PC for "Minecraft". But Dishonored is really a unique title that gave me my money's worth. Look at the paintings and you'll see what I mean.
http://www.theartwolf.com/articles/impressionism/bazille-artist-studio.jpg
http://www.theartwolf.com/articles/impressionism/caillebotte-paris-rainy.jpg
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The Nothing Man Aug 14, 2013 @ 4:39pm 
bubba i dont agree, I do think players know what impressionism is even if its not in the said term, but in the looks of it or the usage(btw borderlands is very addictive, but common, i cant play very long in a row or my brain is like fried with constant repititous nature of some stuff, diff color mobs as harder like diablo fps as ign put it) love the game though esp the dlcs !


Sedia i do agree with you

again the art style of dishonored is its own, but again its console gfx not pc, and the port never was revamped for say max dx11 usage nor tesselation etc, like again ac3,
dont compare this to crysis.. lol
bad compare imo..

and i love minecraft and im a huge fan of advents like monkey islands and old games more than any new games, or system shock 2 wouldnt be my first fps rpg choice over any titles listed here,

i love classics, but again this game needs a revamp like ac3 did,
google about it, took them a bit but it was a title like "PC finally gets high res textures for ac3!" and man it looked about 3 times better after on max settings with tes

not the elder scrolls but tesselation options in games these days are needed.

imo

so far again ill say i like the dlcs in terms of looks and difficulty far more than the main story which had more depth but a lack of that antithetic paradigm



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The Nothing Man Aug 14, 2013 @ 4:54pm 
sent 2 friend invites. Bubba im in antelope ca! lol I used to live in davis until the smokin laws came out, :P went to ucd for a while too.

M.Hardcase Aug 14, 2013 @ 6:49pm 
Originally posted by Sora:
I love you. In a purely platonic, brotherly way. Sanity is such a rare thing these days.

Thanks, I suppose I'm a bit of an oddity in this day and age, I grew up with a 486 on the desk, NES on the TV, and tiger electronics vector LCD handhelds scattered about the house. I've never been one to limit my gaming experience because of a quibble, and it's frankly sad for me to see so many people write off so many good games because the internet taught them a buzzword. I actually kind of fear an era where people don't understand where games started. Where new gamers have never played or looked at a 16- or 8 bit game, where the idea that doom, the original doom, is almost robotron when viewed from a top down perspective is completely lost. Where people don't and can't get that descent is still a more complex first person shooter, because it has a real six degrees of freedom, than most games released now. The unfortunate reality, at least to me, is that my mindset is going away, and games are getting dumber.

People can say what they want about dishonored, but it's very interactive, and it's not just a content tour, if it was, it would fail, because it's not the prettiest game ever, but to call it lazy, ugly, or disgusting, as some people in the thread have, is just base and kinda ignorant. People are allowed to be ignorant however. In honesty though, I don't play games to be constantly wowed by non-interactive setpieces, but some people do, heck it seems like a lot of people do, and I don't understand why they don't just go watch a movie.

It's not that you can't rock the latest hardware, it's not that you can't overclock and benchmark and appreciate that aspect of gaming, I myself have a 5ghz 2700k I've been running for over a year, but to buy into that mindset, that everything has to be graphically perfect or one will consider it to be 'unplayable' just seems to cheapen the hobby to me. A movie buff writing off anything filmed in black and white? Get laughed out of every conversation he's in. A gamer who wants to be taken seriously while espousing anything graphically under par, and discounting everything made before 2011? Has scores of people championing his cause. Seems really lame to me.
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The Nothing Man Aug 14, 2013 @ 7:25pm 
lol i like you mblystone :P

as for me i was programin on my c64 and that was BASIC ,. pretty much created windows after the group split they all took parts of it lol
c64 and intellavision was what i grew up on then atari I just missed colleco vision but thats just bnw intelle

lol

i dont want to get started on benchmarks and how much i think they are a joke, running them vs a game is nothing the same, most marks are optimized for anything where games, just arent

prime example would be GTA IV even the bench in that software itself is a joke, as the software is so old it cant even detect most hardware u have now adays

still cant get any gta to run right or at all, damns it ( i digress)


and ps i love old movies and games more than and new game or movie, minus like HD 3d movies which blow my brain just out of sheer fps in 3d :P

arc fatalis 2 please? etc
Mr. Sweetchuck Aug 15, 2013 @ 5:08pm 
Originally posted by Psychotic Ninja:
Because "poor" graphics = ♥♥♥♥♥ game.

Of course. It's all or nothing on some people's emotional scale these days. Why enjoy my experience as a whole, and end it there, when I have the chance to publicly vent minor hangups that will gain me nothing and see no change.
RED /(Weber)\ Aug 15, 2013 @ 7:44pm 
Originally posted by Fancy Lad:
Originally posted by Psychotic Ninja:
Because "poor" graphics = ♥♥♥♥♥ game.

Of course. It's all or nothing on some people's emotional scale these days. Why enjoy my experience as a whole, and end it there, when I have the chance to publicly vent minor hangups that will gain me nothing and see no change.
This comment.
Pope Bob Aug 15, 2013 @ 8:22pm 
I'd say most of the important textures are actually alright. The real problem is texture streaming, because the pop-in and LOD is HILARIOUSLY bad, especially on facial textures. During a boat ride with Sam, you're likely to see his face texture blur slightly like 10 times.
Lt_Maverick Aug 15, 2013 @ 8:29pm 
I feel like some people think a game has terrible graphics when it in turn has better graphics relatively. Whilst some linear games might look better absolutely, some other open world games *cough* Arma 2 looks steller considering the concept.

Originally posted by Fancy Lad:
Originally posted by Psychotic Ninja:
Because "poor" graphics = ♥♥♥♥♥ game.

Of course. It's all or nothing on some people's emotional scale these days. Why enjoy my experience as a whole, and end it there, when I have the chance to publicly vent minor hangups that will gain me nothing and see no change.
The Nothing Man Aug 15, 2013 @ 9:50pm 
I believe fancy lad was being sarcastic big red lol

minus the all or nothing part which sadly is true,
people missout on some of the best games because they dont look good or arent top notch
The Walking Dead a Telltale game which im proud to know the team and be apart of many TTG games, is a perfect example of how graphics arent needing to be superior just to have a great game.

I have a friend who hates the ttg version but likes the very unpopular shooter survival version of walkin dead just because the graphics are better

as for me , i prefer again morrowind and even arena TES over skyrim or even oblivion

i love old old even infocom games (kids today .. most of them) would not even suffer a minute of a text based advent, but its how i was raised, the parser era of thinking, reading , and learning in gaming, not just blowing up the next fantastical item to make a cool gfx,

im not against great gfx just i can name thousands of old games i prefer over any modern game, just souls of games arent what they used to be, but i digress and again point everyone towards kickstarts and games like TTG's sam n max, strong bad, back to the future etc..

these games are ... new but have the old school quality i so much enjoy (which is why advents are on a comeback people miss PLOT and backstory and envrioment.

Hl2 did a great job transporting you into a character and detailing it, where bfX is shallow and tosses u into a nobody medal winner.. idk

also like ace of spades fps and thats newer but no one plays .. its a great game too ..
:(
BnSwiss Aug 16, 2013 @ 8:15am 
its funny rise of the triad has better textures
HadesGR Aug 16, 2013 @ 8:20am 
Originally posted by BnSwiss:
its funny rise of the triad has better textures

Even Duke Nukem 3D, now go and die in your hole, troll
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