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Now, on to your second bit, "Why did Havelock dispose of Corvo the way he did?", well, if you pay attention to what Sam is saying, when you're all poisoned up, he tells you that he only put half the poison in your drink because he couldn't think of what else to do, and that he's going to put you on a raft a float in the river so when you come to, you'll be able to escape and "leave this cursed city".. So it wasn;t Havelock that disposed of Corvo, it was Sam, who was helping him escape.. Now as for what Daud did with Corvo, they were simply holding him there, they weren't disposing of him..
As for what Havelock would tell Emily, well, you see it pretty much at the end... If things went accordingly, I'm sure that Havelock would simply tell Emily that you went out on one final mission, and that you never came back, that you were likely killed in action.. SPOILER> But you see at the very end of the game, if you do Low Chaos, when you talk to Havelock again, that he's actually come clean with Emily, and told her EVERYTHING, everything about what happened, what they intended to do, what they wound UP doing, and how they turned on you, and such and such. And at that point, Emily's obviously locked up in that small room.. Because at that point, I'm sure Havelock realised something, that Corvo was coming after him.. Because remember, to the enemies, Campbell and crow face, Corvo just disappeared, and all of the sudden there's an assassin on the loose making right or getting revenge. And Havelock knows more than anyone what Corvo is capable of, because he's witnessed it over the past few days.. So he just gave up and came clean with Emily.
I see how hard it would be to get the city to understand it was daud who killed the empress if they had tried, even though theres that letter in the regent's safe.
thanks for the replys,
and slingdong (lol) ill check your spoiler when im through with the game
That's what bugged me the most about the game... In the beginning, when they find you with the Empress, it would be SO easy for Corvo to resist and say "HELL NO, IT WAS DAUD, THEY TOOK EMILY!", if only Corvo could talk... Because I have to think, well, if it goes like I think it would, Corvo is the Empress' Royal Protector, therefor he must know, and have stategies against all possible threats. So I'm sure that he would know who Daud is, and I'm sure that everyone else would know who Daud is. But then again, if he did that there wouldn't be much of a game lol... Maybe Corvo didn't know who Daud was, because he wasn't a native of Dunwall and Daud is a popular tale for the natives, like a scare your children into being good story. But then again, it also says in books, that the Emperor or Empress chooses a Royal Protector during their childhood, in order to ensure strong bonds and complete trust, but I don't know if that's what happened... If Corvo is the Empress' Royal Protector, I would have figured he would have been in Dunwall, and been known for a while... Unless the late Emporer hired him on, and when he died, Jessamine utilized Corvo as her Protector and of course fell in love with him, removing all trust issues from the equation. I don't know, I wish the game had more specific lore.
The guardsmen went with the spymaster.
Alright, but you also must look at it this way... The Royal Protector is trusted over ALL others by the Empress, and the Spymaster is well, just the equivilant of today's CIA Director, that's all..
Also, you say "ravings about a man no one has ever seen before". But there are multiple books about Daud, by various sources.. Not to mention the book that is given to you on Daud if you get the Void Walker Arsenal, it's a complete rundown on the guy... Surely people don't doubt that this Daud exists. Also, if you play the DLC, you see that a lot of people recognize you, playing as Daud, and the DLC timeline is right smack dab during the same timeline as the main story.. So how can you say that nobody's ever seen Daud? Even if they haven't personally seen Daud, surely they know of him, so why would they question the Royal Protector's story about what happened if Daud is known as the "Knife of Dunwall" and known to be an assassin..
And you say "using magical powers to kill the Empress".. Well, one, he didn't use magical powers to kill her, he stabbed her in the gut. We all saw that.. His lacky simply held Corvo back with Pull because they knew they were too weak to take on Corvo. Also, you sound as if you mean to say they'd doubt that magic was used in any way.. Well, who is High Overseer Campbell? The head of a organization that fights the black arts, and magic, and loaths the Outsider... So SURELY nobody would doubt that magic could be used.... Also, again, if you play the DLC, you'll see that they call an Overseer to deal with a situation involving magic in Coldridge when they have trouble questioning a witch.. So with an entire, powerful organization dedicated to fighting magic and the dark arts, an organization that arrests, tortures and kills the people who follow the dark arts and worship the Outsider, i again doubt that anyone wouldn't believe that magic was used..
Also the guardmens are likely either the Spymaster's butt buddies, or they knew of the plot all along.. Because who in the hell wouldn't be suspicious of someone telling them to halt when they are trying to gunshots and comotion coming from where the Empress is? That alone should make the Spymaster look suspicious. (When you play the DLC, you see what happened during the assault, from Dauds prospective, and you can clearly see that the guards were trying to respond to the comotion, but the Spymaster halted them at the gate, made them wait until he was sure Daud had done his thing, and signalled them to follow him up... And anyone with sense would absolutely believe Corvo if Corvo gave his side of the story, because if you use you gun to fend off the first assassins, which most people do, and that is actually what is portrayed in the events occuring when you what the quicktime event at the beginning of the DLC, you see Corvo using his gun, and the guards responding to the gun shots... So again I ask, why would the guards, if they heard Corvo's story, not believe him? With everything compiled.. Hearing the gunshots, while the Empress was not shot, she was stabbed once. Also, they wouldn't question magic, because where the hell do they think Emily went? Do they think he's hiding her in the bushes or some ♥♥♥♥? Hell no...
PS, sorry for the edit, my text was put in a quote box cause I missed deleting my quote code.
i think corvo cant win trying to explain his innocence, hes one man against all these people conspiring against him and the empress.
black magic is definitly something people would be aware of at least within the overseers .
as for corvo having a defense against daud.. not sure... i mean.. he should be more like batman, but in this instance he clearly isnt, he should be aware of dark magic.. and well, he doesnt have other people working directly under his authority, he expects help from the royal gaurd but that was used against him.
also, isnt there a painting by sokolov of daud?
Yes, there is a painting of Daud by Sokolov.... That another reason I have no doubt that the people of Dunwall, if they haven't seen him personally, at least know of him, very well in fact.... Because if you play the DLC, almost anyone that Daud is set to run into, knows him and instantly says "Wait, you're Daud!", from the boater outside the slaughterhouse, to Lizzy Stride in Coldridge. Thalia Timsh knows of him so well, she was able to get a message to him and hire him... So again, I really have no doubt that the people of Dunwall know who Daud is..
I don't care so much, because if things didn't happen the way they did in the beginning, there wouldn't be any story, and you wouldn't be able to get your mits on the dirty backstabbing traitors in this game, and either make them suffer for the rest of their lives, or just simply sent them to the Void...
I guess the only thing that really bothers me about the game, is that throughout the entire game, you are set on making things right, finding Emily, taking out the bad guys, putting Emily on the throne, clearing your name, and what have you.. But, you NEVER actually clear your name, or at least the player never gets to see the results of Corvo's name being cleared, and never gets to see any difference, other than "everyone hates Corvo".. It just sucks not to see that, and to have worked for it the entire game... I really think they should have had a little bit of a option mission after Corvo opens up that room and Emily comes out, or after you knock Havelock off the edge of the catwalk and save Emily, whichever ending you had based on your Chaos level. They should have had something like, you have to escort Emily back to Samual, to where you can go back to Dunwall tower with Emily by your side.. And if any guards approach trying to fight Corvo, Emily can command them to stop, and give them a rundown on what happened and what's going on.. And they can then have Emily make an announcement in the propganda room to the entire city, letting everyone know that she's safe, again giving a brief rundown of the events, pardoning Corvo, and laying claim to the throne... And then you should be able to wander about before the game ends to do something, or take care of something else in order to see other people's reactions to you now that your name's cleared.. Having guards respect you again, and such... Maybe there can be a final mission where they find out that there is a small group of Overseers fiercely loyal to the ex High Overseer Campbell, and a small ground of the City Watch that is still brainwashed and loyal to the ex-Lord Regent (Hiram Burrows, not Havelock, because really, Havelock was a joke, and was in power for what, 5 minutes? lol) Then you can return back to Emily in Dunwall Tower, and inform her that everything is ok, and everything will be alright from here on out, and that you can now aid her in getting rid of the plague and rebuilding the city... Then the slideshow and the credits trigger... Done....