Would Corvo kill Lord Shaw?

[jimmyoneshot]

Canonically speaking the fate of pretty much every target and character has been confirmed by either Harvey Smith or the second game but I can't find any information on Lord Shaw as in was he taken care of non lethally or killed?

It seems to me that Corvo should kill him because if you don't deliver the note to him then when you next speak to Pendleton he says that Shaw contacted him this morning and is upset with you for not helping him whereas if you knockout or kill him everyone acts in the same way either way i.e. as if Shaw is dead. I'm pretty sure this is an oversight and that being able to knock him out at all is just for achievement purposes because realistically speaking he would wake up and be angry at Pendleton the next day anyway.

Leaving him alive would put Pendleton in danger too which I doubt Corvo would do plus he was ready to kill Corvo making it self defence. I can't find any sources to back this up though. Anyone have any thoughts?

[flatdarkmars]

I think so, only because there's no reason for Corvo to refuse to deliver Pendleton's letter, since he doesn't know the contents. Once he delivers the letter, then fleeing the duel or going non-lethal would actually probably raise more suspicions/complications than just going through with it.

[♂Жизньнеимеетсм♂]

Shoot him with a combat sleep dart and throw him in the bushes next to the duel place and its ok.

[flatdarkmars]

Yes, that works as far as game mechanics are concerned, but I think the OP is talking more about in-universe, in-character canon.

[♂Жизньнеимеетсм♂]

Pendleton is a cuk

[cyberwiz97]

Originally posted by jimmyoneshot:

Canonically speaking the fate of pretty much every target and character has been confirmed by either Harvey Smith or the second game but

After my experience with Harvey Smith, I wouldn't put all that much faith in what says, even if he did comment on this. He once insisted that an alleged bug in the high chaos playthrough of the Flooded District not being Ghostable, was not true. I had to record and show him a video before he begrudgingly relented, finally admitting it was indeed a bug. Sources like Smith or the Dishonored Wiki are not infallible.

The non-lethal (sleep dart) solution would seem to me to be the way Corvo would handle Lord Shaw. Even though Corvo is tasked with "assassinating" targets, we all know there are alternate solutions the "Lord Protector" would choose to implement, rather than use lethal means. It satisfies the terms of Pendleton's request and nets us the reward but, is it canon? Good question. The answer seems to rest with how Corvo canonically dealt with other targets.

[cyberwiz97]

Originally posted by Why are we still here...:

I don't think Corvo would go through with the duel after delivering the letter. ..... Its none of Corvo's business and he has infinitely important things to do.

I would tend to agree. Corvo is above such petty feuds and would not likely get involved with personal disputes. Unfortunately, the choice may not be his. If Corvo walks away after giving Lord Shaw the letter, Shaw will actively search the area and, if he spots Corvo anywhere on the grounds, he'll attack, bringing the guards into the fight and setting off an alarm. Basically, all hell breaks loose, forcing Corvo to fight for his life or make a very hasty retreat.

Originally posted by Why are we still here...:

Besides, Pendleton is a gutless lying sack of s***.

I heard that! :D

[jimmyoneshot]

Thanks for the replies.

I have been playing the game in a couple of different ways and basically Pendleton either:-

1. Thanks you for upholding his honour and acts as though you killed Lord Shaw regardless of whether you knocked him out or not.

2. Gets pissy with you for not delivering the letter and leaving Lord Shaw alive

And seeing as though Corvo has no idea what the letter is even about it's unlikely that he wouldn't deliver it. So it seems to me that killing Shaw is canonical.

[rod66]

Given that this is a matter of honour I always felt that Corvo would kill Shaw (even though he was roped into it and Pendleton's honour isn't worth much).

[July7]

Pendleton is a douch bag for suprising you with that duel, in addtion to, you know, trying to kill you and betraying you.

[ste3e]

Pendleton has already roped Corvo into killing his brothers. He can't be trusted. And Pendleton is asking for a favor that has nothing to do with reinstating Emily. Why should Corvo do his bidding?

[Valden21]

Originally posted by ste3e:

Pendleton has already roped Corvo into killing his brothers. He can't be trusted. And Pendleton is asking for a favor that has nothing to do with reinstating Emily. Why should Corvo do his bidding?

Three reasons why Pendleton should be trusted, from Corvo's point of view. First reason: Neutralizing Pendleton's older brothers is absolutely CRUCIAL to getting Lady Emily back on the throne, as they're allied with the Lord Regent and control a block of Parliament votes big enough to disavow Lady Emily's status as the heir to Empress Jessamine. It doesn't matter if Lady Emily is freed as long as they're still alive, as they can prevent her from taking the throne.

Second reason: This is an honor thing. If Corvo doesn't do Pendleton this favor, the other nobles at the party will think that Pendleton is a coward and that Lord Shaw is in the right. Say goodbye to Pendleton's control over the voting block he gained when his brothers died. As long as Pendleton or his representative meets Lord Shaw's challenge, Pendleton's honor is maintained.

Last reason: Hindsight's 20/20. At this point, Admiral Havelock and Lord Pendleton are still focused on removing the Lord Regent from power. The question of "What then" and what to do once Lady Emily Kaldwin becomes EMPRESS Emily Kaldwin hasn't even entered their minds yet. Even if it has, Corvo doesn't know it yet, because they're keeping it hidden.

[Darkstar]

Always hit him with a sleep dart. ever one is happy .

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