Red 9 or Punisher

[Diamond Girls]

Which one should I sell?

[KRON]

Depends on whichever you like more. I'd sell the Punisher.

[Jonathan J. O'Neill]

I tend to use the Red 9. It's not as good as it was in the original version but still good.

Though I actually prefer the starter pistol with its exclusive upgrade as it makes it almost as good as the Red 9 while taking up far less inventory space.

Blacktail has better damage but also a small magazine. I prefer having extra shots over the fairly decent damage difference.

[Lu2]

if you want raw damage take red9 , if you want 5x crit take default one (or dlc one) , if you want pentration power trough hordes take punisher , blacktail is more precise and fast but lower damage then red

[Bullett00th]

People talk smack about the Punisher but imo it's a great gun, provided you take advantage of its penetration and line enemies up.

Also great against shield enemies

[Diamond Girls]

Thanks. I decided to keep both anyway. But I feel Punisher works better for me than Red 9

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Is the killer handgun worth getting? Seems like magnum ammo is very hard to find.

[James.Havoc]

Originally posted by Bullett00th:

People talk smack about the Punisher but imo it's a great gun, provided you take advantage of its penetration and line enemies up.

Also great against shield enemies

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The Punisher is great in this game. Personally I didnt like it in the original, but since the laser sight isn't standard anymore on all guns, the punisher gets the edge over the Red9.
It may not be one of the hard-hitters, but once you get the laser sight, you'll always give out full focused shots. And therefore better crit chance. (Yes, the starter gun is better in that field)

And asides from that, the punishers penetration capabilty is not only good against (wooden) shields and lined up enemies, its also great against enemies, that are taken over by the third plaga types, since body shots will hit the ganado and the plaga.

[Hot Traveler]

Punisher is the worst gun in the game. It's alright near the start because of how consistently it stuns enemies, but after chapter 4 the consistency disappears and you're rarely able to stun enemies. I've even found that the bolt thrower is more useful. Sell the Punisher, upgrade the Red-9. The Red-9 is one of if not the best gun in the game.

[Bullett00th]

Originally posted by AshleyEnjoyer:

Punisher is the worst gun in the game. It's alright near the start because of how consistently it stuns enemies, but after chapter 4 the consistency disappears and you're rarely able to stun enemies. I've even found that the bolt thrower is more useful. Sell the Punisher, upgrade the Red-9. The Red-9 is one of if not the best gun in the game.

If you're trying to use the Punisher for staggers, you're playing the game wrong

[Leijona]

Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Sentinel Nine?

I thought not. It's not a story the regular players would tell you. It's a Deluxe Edition legend.

S9 was a weapon so powerful, it was made a DLC. Laser sight, superior DPS and capacity, and an increased critical chance. Unparalleled performance neglected due to it's seemingly small base power. Ironic. It could trivialize the game for anyone, but it remains forgotten in pistol circlejerks.

[ggAkatsukiP]

Which shotgun and rifle are the better pair for Punisher? I know Punisher lack damage, so riotgun and sr m1903 sounds like the most obvious choice. I'm thinking to go Punisher + SkullShaker + Stingray. One of my old ng pro playthrough I went with sg09r + w870 + sr m1903, this combination really surprised me of its effectiveness.

[Bullett00th]

Originally posted by ggAkatsukiP:

Which shotgun and rifle are the better pair for Punisher? I know Punisher lack damage, so riotgun and sr m1903 sounds like the most obvious choice. I'm thinking to go Punisher + SkullShaker + Stingray. One of my old ng pro playthrough I went with sg09r + w870 + sr m1903, this combination really surprised me of its effectiveness.

Anything works really. I used mine with the AR and combat shotgun.

When people say Punisher lacks damage, it means they're using the gun like they would any other handgun instead of lining enemies up. It's the same as if you'd take a sniper rifle and complain about lacking ammo because you never go for headshots.

There is no falloff damage on penetration, so one shot going through 2 enemies is twice the damage.

[ggAkatsukiP]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3167831047
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3167831111

This conclude my run with Punisher as handgun choice on new game pro.

Punisher definitely change how I approach each encounter than the average handgun method. Its a powerful mid range, choke point / corridor control tool than actually a weapon. When lots of ganado managed to close up, that's when a wide-shot shotgun does the job, send every ganado flying and you will back off to mid range, which is the ideal range that Punisher excel at. Much like the attache mines of Bolt Thrower, it require you to assess each encounter, the environment, before you devise a plan on how to optimize the gun.

In short : Punisher is a newbie trap. Its a professional class utility tool. Stick with Red9 if you are not familiar with the game inside out yet.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2962636930
Due to low damage of Punisher, its advised to learn how to save up ammo in 1vs1 situation using the knife insta kill strategy.

[Yukari Penninsula]

Red9 is for normies. Punisher and SG-09 are awesome because you can attach the laser sight and that alone makes a huge difference in tight situations.

[Yukari Penninsula]

Originally posted by For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge:

Is the killer handgun worth getting? Seems like magnum ammo is very hard to find.

Killer7 is a magnum, that means that you save that baby for boss fights and tough enemies like Brutes, Garradors, and chainsaws. If you already have the Broken Butterfly AND an exclusive upgrade ticket (you can trade it for 30 spinels) stick to that one and pass on the Killer7. If not, then absolutely go for the Killer7.