How do you play the advent

[The Shadow Rose]

I understand all about the tec and vasari but nothing about the advent. Their ships and defenses seem to be extremely weak compared to the other two and the eco isnt as good either. Anyone wanna give me a mini guide for them or something because nothing anywhere explains them.

[z|A|bik2]

If someone only made an advent guide

To keep it short - Advents have the worst eco, but most cost effective ships.
If you try to keep up with your enemies on terms of economy, you will lose, simply because you are lacking tools for it. It does not mean, you should not be getting eco at all - you should, but just not the trade port econ.

For ecoing use the allegiance techs, and population upgrades, this will allow for a decent income. You can completely ignore trade ports.

As for ships:
Your disciples will win any fight against any other lf.
Tech up to illuminators + iconus guardian for repulsion, and you get an untouchable army
Get Destra crusaders only if you are already at tech tier 8, and researched all the hull+shield+weapon stuff.

For early fights - get a progenitor capital ship, skill the malice ability, and your ships will decimate enemy fleet.

[Xenodemon]

their super weapon doesnt seam to be worth it either

[The Shadow Rose]

Originally posted by z|A|bik2:

If someone only made an advent guide

To keep it short - Advents have the worst eco, but most cost effective ships.
If you try to keep up with your enemies on terms of economy, you will lose, simply because you are lacking tools for it. It does not mean, you should not be getting eco at all - you should, but just not the trade port econ.

For ecoing use the allegiance techs, and population upgrades, this will allow for a decent income. You can completely ignore trade ports.

As for ships:
Your disciples will win any fight against any other lf.
Tech up to illuminators + iconus guardian for repulsion, and you get an untouchable army
Get Destra crusaders only if you are already at tech tier 8, and researched all the hull+shield+weapon stuff.

For early fights - get a progenitor capital ship, skill the malice ability, and your ships will decimate enemy fleet.

Theres an advent guide? I never could find one anywhere >.>

[z|A|bik2]

Originally posted by Xenodemon:

their super weapon doesnt seam to be worth it either

Their superweapon boosts damage of your ships in the gravity well you fire it upon.
Also in case of ultimate stalemates, where noone can push a planet, which is quite common in since, due to how strong the defences are, the -10 allegiance on each shot, allows you to slowly push forward

[z|A|bik2]

Originally posted by The Shadow Rose:

Theres an advent guide? I never could find one anywhere >.>

That is an old meme. I am the creator of very thorough TEC and Vasari guides. But I never made an Advent guide, as instead of finishing the guide for advent, I simply created a balance mod.

But during the creation of the balance mod, people would keep asking for the advent guide, as no one knew, of the balance mod, as it was a secret project up until the release.

[The Shadow Rose]

Originally posted by z|A|bik2:

Originally posted by The Shadow Rose:

Theres an advent guide? I never could find one anywhere >.>

That is an old meme. I am the creator of very thorough TEC and Vasari guides. But I never made an Advent guide, as instead of finishing the guide for advent, I simply created a balance mod.

But during the creation of the balance mod, people would keep asking for the advent guide, as no one knew, of the balance mod, as it was a secret project up until the release.

Ah. I read the guides long ago. They helped alot and let me beat max difficulty ais with them. Thanks.

[Maximum.Effort]

Originally posted by z|A|bik2:

Originally posted by The Shadow Rose:

Theres an advent guide? I never could find one anywhere >.>

That is an old meme. I am the creator of very thorough TEC and Vasari guides. But I never made an Advent guide, as instead of finishing the guide for advent, I simply created a balance mod.

But during the creation of the balance mod, people would keep asking for the advent guide, as no one knew, of the balance mod, as it was a secret project up until the release.

You have been very lazy in delivering the advent guid Zabik. Im very
disappointed that your secret project failed and almost collapsed the community in 2. This attempt to implode us now requires you to provide the advent guide that includes eco build up, early game fleet, and late game fleet compositions. I hope you will assist all the new comers with this guid. This is the way.

[z|A|bik2]

Originally posted by Dragon.Warrior:

You have been very lazy in delivering the advent guid Zabik. Im very
disappointed that your secret project failed and almost collapsed the community in 2. This attempt to implode us now requires you to provide the advent guide that includes eco build up, early game fleet, and late game fleet compositions. I hope you will assist all the new comers with this guid. This is the way.

UBM brought more players into sins multiplayer within it's 2 month, than vanilla in 2 years.
If you guys stopped trolling, we could be having multiple 5s even on mondays, and not an even more dying game.

Advent guide aint happening, unless someone donates cash or smth. Because I see no reason in making guides to an outdated project.
Or well, I may have been inspired to create the advent guide, cause I am simply a nice guy, but what for lol? You guys are so trollish, that you would not let any new people join your lobbies.

[The Shadow Rose]

Originally posted by Dragon.Warrior:

Originally posted by z|A|bik2:

That is an old meme. I am the creator of very thorough TEC and Vasari guides. But I never made an Advent guide, as instead of finishing the guide for advent, I simply created a balance mod.

But during the creation of the balance mod, people would keep asking for the advent guide, as no one knew, of the balance mod, as it was a secret project up until the release.

You have been very lazy in delivering the advent guid Zabik. Im very
disappointed that your secret project failed and almost collapsed the community in 2. This attempt to implode us now requires you to provide the advent guide that includes eco build up, early game fleet, and late game fleet compositions. I hope you will assist all the new comers with this guid. This is the way.

Umm. Why not just make your own advent guide? ZjA cant be the only one who understands how to play the game right?

[WHIPperSNAPper]

Originally posted by z|A|bik2:

If someone only made an advent guide...

Hey Zabik, it's your big day! Complete the cycle and release an Advent Guide to go with your TEC and Vasari guides.

[WHIPperSNAPper]

Originally posted by The Shadow Rose:

Ah. I read the guides long ago. They helped alot and let me beat max difficulty ais with them. Thanks.

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[z|A|bik2]

Originally posted by The Shadow Rose:

Umm. Why not just make your own advent guide? ZjA cant be the only one who understands how to play the game right?

Haha, thx for the support, but as you can see, I am the only guy who understands the game and in general is nice enough to spent his free time on such stuff.

It is a small community, and there are people with more than 10.000 games online. But for writting a guide, of my extense, they would still lack vital pieces of information.

You see, people play a lot intuitive here. And I studied the game for my guides. I have risen myself a lot in terms of skill by writting them.
And I also know only of 3 other players, who actually studied the game anywhere near at the level I did. - And remember, we are a small community, so it is nearly certain, that I know all of them.

So at best, you'd have only 4 players capable of writting a guide at that level of understanding the game. Which does in fact reduce the chances of an advent guide of that depth.

I dunno why are people this lazy. I have barely above 1k games, within 8 years. The median number of games for "oldies" is like 3.000. And every single one of them brags about his skill.
Imho it is a worthy investment into studying the game, if you play it THIS much, and for this long.

But instead they kick all new players, calling them on being noobish, while in fact, they are noobish themselves.

[Haugen Das Ice creme]

Originally posted by WHIPperSNAPper:

Originally posted by z|A|bik2:

If someone only made an advent guide...

Hey Zabik, it's your big day! Complete the cycle and release an Advent Guide to go with your TEC and Vasari guides.

Yea i wont respect him until he completes an advent guide

[z|A|bik2]

Originally posted by Cuckhold_King:

Originally posted by WHIPperSNAPper:

Hey Zabik, it's your big day! Complete the cycle and release an Advent Guide to go with your TEC and Vasari guides.

Yea i wont respect him until he completes an advent guide

So that your respect has any meaning to other people, I would recommend changing your nickname

[Haugen Das Ice creme]

Originally posted by z|A|bik2:

Originally posted by Cuckhold_King:

Yea i wont respect him until he completes an advent guide

So that your respect has any meaning to other people, I would recommend changing your nickname :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

Damn no sense of humor Zabik lol