How do you capture new territories in war?

[The Nac Mac Feegle]

Surely I'm missing something...

I'm playing as the king of Leon, and I've agreed to enter a holy war for one of the sultanates south of Aragorn. During the war, my brother the King of Castille passed away and I inherited that kingdom - it has amalgamated into Leon - as well as control of this war.

Anyway, I formed up my armies - 6,000 strong - and crushed the enemy. I then seiged their single city and reduced their morale to 0%. I assaulted twice and succeded twice. I got a war score of 88%. This is as far as I have got, I have no idea how to finish this war and make this province part of my kingdom.

I cannot 'enforce' my claims to the land, because the sultan won't accept them. Beyond that I have no idea how to take the initiative and end this damn conflict. Worse still, no one on google seems to have had the same problem. I just don't know how to make this sultanate part of my kingdom. I'd really like to, as I plan to reconquor Spain afterwards.

How can I, very simply, assume control and ownership of this Islamic province?

[Brave Lunatic]

you'll have to assault their armies or hold enemy counties. to finish a war and enforce your demands, you will need a 100% warscore. sometimes, the enemy will surrender if it thinks it is a hopeless battle, but don't count on it for Holy Wars and other offensive wars.

[The Nac Mac Feegle]

Alright, thanks very much. I am currently stuck on the afore-mentioned 88%, it turned out the sultan had been hiding out in a neighboring sultanate but I defeated him. No advance in the war score, and when my armies are in the sultanate in question they are no longer in a state of seige, they just stand there, so I can't advance the war through seiges.

On the war screen, the Sultan has done a certain percentage of the war, but there are another, like 15 people listed below his portrait who have done 0% - does this mean that i need to defeat all those other people before I am considered the winner of this war?

[roerdhh]

No, you won't get war score from going after his allies. You just have to wait - the war score percentage for controlling the target territory of the war rises significantly with the duration of the war.

[la_nague]

he should surrender once you have all his holdings.


also, you dont gain territory by sieges, you only gain the territory you declared war for.
Everything else will go back to the other guy once the war is resolved.

[Brave Lunatic]

The % is simply a means for displaying how much prestige will be earned at the end of the war. If you help out, you gain a certain percentage of the prestige. This is most useful for Crusades/Jihads where the percentage determines whether you get the target of the Crusade.

If you go after his allies, just destroy their armies. Seiging the ally territories is useless.

[The Nac Mac Feegle]

In the end I attacked four or five armies from nearby sultanates who appeared to also be involved in the war, it advanced my war score and he gave up, Zaragoza is mine!

I'm thinking of waging a war against a fellow in pursuit of the duchy of Aragon, his province has been under attack from rebels who occupy it completely so i assume this means he would be a soft target.

a) Is my assumption correct?
b) If I beat that guy, would all of Aragon suddenly become mine? (it's a region comprising of various kingdoms, including Spanish Barcelona) Or only those parts of Aragon that are under his influence?

[[HdF] Almut Grete]

He will be weak, yes.
But you will need some kind of claim to the land so you can declare war on it. Holy wars are also an option, you can claim a lot of conries at one time and take all. Or even better join a holy war and you can keep everthing you occupy at the end (unless it is what the war is about).

[la_nague]

the decleration of war will always describe exactly what you will get when you win.

Also, be careful, he can call in allies, he might not be so weak.
Also, when you declare holy war, everyone of his religion can help him, ally or not.

[Onk the Monk]

Originalmente postado por HdF Almut Grete:

He will be weak, yes.
But you will need some kind of claim to the land so you can declare war on it. Holy wars are also an option, you can claim a lot of conries at one time and take all. Or even better join a holy war and you can keep everthing you occupy at the end (unless it is what the war is about).

How does it work exactly? If a ruler holds for example duchy A and B and another ruler declares a holy war for duchy A and I join this ruler in this holy war and I occupy duchy B I get to keep it when the war ends?

[Nef]

Originalmente postado por Onk the Monk:

Originalmente postado por HdF Almut Grete:

He will be weak, yes.
But you will need some kind of claim to the land so you can declare war on it. Holy wars are also an option, you can claim a lot of conries at one time and take all. Or even better join a holy war and you can keep everthing you occupy at the end (unless it is what the war is about).

How does it work exactly? If a ruler holds for example duchy A and B and another ruler declares a holy war for duchy A and I join this ruler in this holy war and I occupy duchy B I get to keep it when the war ends?

No, you don't get any land from assisting someone else in a war, though you do get more prestige for fighting battles in other peoples' wars as compared to battles in your own wars.

[Taranis]

The only time you can join someone elses war and gain land is a crusade. Joining any other war will only net you a portion of the gold/prestige/piety earned if your side wins. Also there's the strategic element to it (joining defenders to prevent someone else from gaining more land, for example.)

[Onk the Monk]

Originalmente postado por Nef:

Originalmente postado por Onk the Monk:

How does it work exactly? If a ruler holds for example duchy A and B and another ruler declares a holy war for duchy A and I join this ruler in this holy war and I occupy duchy B I get to keep it when the war ends?

No, you don't get any land from assisting someone else in a war, though you do get more prestige for fighting battles in other peoples' wars as compared to battles in your own wars.

Originalmente postado por CirrusReborn:

The only time you can join someone elses war and gain land is a crusade. Joining any other war will only net you a portion of the gold/prestige/piety earned if your side wins. Also there's the strategic element to it (joining defenders to prevent someone else from gaining more land, for example.)

Yeah I also thought it worked that way with holy wars. But because Almut said you could keep the land, I wondered if I maybe missed an ingame mechanic.

[Onk the Monk]

Originalmente postado por CirrusReborn:

The only time you can join someone elses war and gain land is a crusade. Joining any other war will only net you a portion of the gold/prestige/piety earned if your side wins. Also there's the strategic element to it (joining defenders to prevent someone else from gaining more land, for example.)

You only get to keep the land if you get the highest war score right?

[Nef]

Originalmente postado por Onk the Monk:

Originalmente postado por CirrusReborn:

The only time you can join someone elses war and gain land is a crusade. Joining any other war will only net you a portion of the gold/prestige/piety earned if your side wins. Also there's the strategic element to it (joining defenders to prevent someone else from gaining more land, for example.)

You only get to keep the land if you get the highest war score right?

Correct, whoever has the highest war score gets all the land. I think the same is true of Jihads as well.

[Chaz Kensington]

k - I've had a couple situations where they ask for peace and I win, but the area is still not mine. It does show my border around it, but I can't build or assume control of the land.