Crusader Kings II

Crusader Kings II

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Borsch Jan 15, 2015 @ 3:16am
Irish Britannia
Hello Community,

this is bjornvader with a request for future understanding.

I have a background in 4X games going back some 7+ years (mostly civ3/4/5{civ5 sucks})
I also own Victoria 2 with all xpacs, and CK2 with rajas, republics, islam, rome, old gods, sunset & abraham
(tho i must admit i do not use sunset, as it is pure fantasy and for the sake of this goal, not using gods of old, either) EDIT : the gods of old is still active, i just started at 1066.

While I understand that Ireland in CK2 is basically Japan in Vic2, I consider uniting the empire of britania
under irish rule a lofty goal that i have worked tirelessly to achieve. Below i will better illustrate my frustration.
if anyone out there has united britania under irish rule, please help.


STARTING AS KING MURCHAD OF MUMU
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My current strategem is to first unite duchy mumu, piecemail osraige & cill dara, take lagain/dublin in one
fell swoop, then individually vassalize & revoke titles of each county until i own the entire of ireland.
from here, i start a vassal merch. republic from laigin, gift them osraige run by a dynasty member, grant
duchy of mumu's counties to dynasty, giving its cap to one of my brothers for the title of duchy. this i can
usually accomplish in my first king and unite the island, grant titles, form merch repub. by the year 1085.

From here, i immediately begin the conquest of wales, regardless of the dynasty of england. which i can usually
do, and form the kingdom title of said, with my second king, starting with the southern welish kingdom first,
then powys to prevent english invasion, then gwynned. I find this more important than scotland as a first target
merely to prevent english growth.

then the dreaded conquest and usurping of scotland. i hate scotland. this country has single handedly taught me
more about invasion, title succesion, and patience than any other goal i've had in this game. it's also ruined
almost every game.


LAWS
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centralization until high. then drop church tax to nill as it is almost always the kaiser's vassal, raise feudal tax, raise church levies

primogniture ASAP (1077)


SPOILERS ON MY GAME PLAY
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step one, the great reroll. get a chancellor and a backup chancellor with scores of 14+
step two, ambition : marriage
step three, ambition : wealth; borrow jews; expel jews (the second you create ireland, welcome jews back and never expel again)
from there, just fix the king/ambition ireland
step four : pilgrimage while training troups (santiago)
step five : wait. wait for your army to be at max. patience is a virtue.
step six : hire band of breton, conq desmuhain, then with army STILL RAISED, revoke urmuhain ( i cant spell )
step seven/eight : fabricate claims osraige/cil dara while attempting to piss of/kill earl of desmuhain to end 10 yr. treaty
step nine : laigin/dublin in one war (almost always this is one country)
step ten : unite ireland one county vassalize/revoke at a time, conchatta last which is almost always war
step 11: vassal merch. republic of laigin lead by dynasty member, gift away duchy of mumu to dynasty leaving me northern
half of ireland with demense of 8
step 12 : marry off my now entriely too large court. i often have a court size of over 200 very early in the game.
step 13 : southern wales then powys, then gwyned
step 14 : spend one kingship beefing up ireland's castles in my demense (at this point im rocking 25+ gold/month if not more) EDIT : more like +18 to +20 at this early stage
step 15 : scotland. bloody scotland. two counties at a time. knowing the patience to not usurp the crown if
crown authority is to low. knowing to not grant the kingdom of alba to my heir as that will ruin my laws of centralization, etc.

while doing these steps, im also building cities all across my demense of ireland in my 3 held duchies with a demense of 8


PROGRESS
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ireland by 1085ish
wales by 1110ish
half scotland ASAP
in fact, do everything to make sure england does not gain any land it does not already hold.

with ireland, wales and scotland under my belt, my army matches england but i oft drop the ball for various reasons
including but not limited to learning new and exciting ways the game mechanics ruin you in the invasion of scotland.
Last edited by Borsch; Jan 21, 2015 @ 11:18pm
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Neshamah Jan 15, 2015 @ 6:30am 
Sounds like a plan !

Here's my Welsh Britannia (Prydain):

http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/547517466523311312/90DEE134C2C6DB6D3B5A235501F5486596A3F916/

Ironman, Very Hard.

I started in the Duchy of Deheubarth, and just got lucky.

Good luck !

Peace.
Stopped reading at "civ5 sucks".
OldMemes.biz Jan 26, 2015 @ 11:54pm 
obligatory "cool story bro."
Thundercracker Jan 27, 2015 @ 7:32am 
Originally posted by The Executioner's Bong:
Stopped reading at "civ5 sucks".
yea, it gets irritating when people tell you what you already know

;D
I didn't know that the best civ and possibly 4x game sucked.
Thundercracker Jan 27, 2015 @ 3:05pm 
Originally posted by bjornvader:
next time i make a post, i won't share any background. happy gaming everyone.
nah, i enjoyed it. ignore the peanut gallery ;D
OldMemes.biz Jan 27, 2015 @ 3:58pm 
"whaa I'm taking my ball and going home!"
Thundercracker Jan 28, 2015 @ 4:25am 
Originally posted by bjornvader:
i just wanted help. next time i won't even use steam forums. and goodnight. <takes ball and leaves>
if that's the way you feel about it. kinda sad it only took two of the many people who visit these boards to set you on this path, but such is life, i guess.
OldMemes.biz Jan 28, 2015 @ 8:11am 
lol he edited his comment. his first reply to me was "if i wanted to say it like that I'd have quoted eric cartman ;)"

then he changed it to his ""i just wanted to help"

lol I tink someone is a drama queen
Last edited by OldMemes.biz; Jan 28, 2015 @ 8:11am
LUSCA Feb 7, 2015 @ 5:02pm 
Empire of Alba!?
>Rename it Impireacht Naofa na hÉireann
>Stick it to the fake romans
>Force Spaniards to speak Irish or die from infidels
>Crusade like a true Celtic Badass
>Enable sunset invasion because you're a celtic badass with no fear
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=338299440
>Show the chocolate invaders who owns the west
>kite second wave around Africa for a couple of years because you accidentally disbanded your entire army into the ocean
>own the coast from Dublin to Jerusalem, highfive the pope on the way
>arrange marraige with Byzantium
>Game of Thrones
>Reform the Roman Empire to stick it to the fake romans yet again
>Antipope to get Rome
>Kick out all Templar Illuminati
>exploit broken Legacy of Rome DLC for free money, CBs and infinite Piety
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=343435297
>Make Rome capital, give Rome back to Pope, repeat x infinity
>Become God

I decided to go for the Rome achievement super late in the game it was actually pretty intense, race against the clock to rip chunks out of the HRE, find a way to break the peace treaty, assasinate people, telling my pope to excommunicate people, fund rebellions.
Last edited by LUSCA; Feb 7, 2015 @ 5:04pm
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