Question about playing Cathar?

[unseenclass]

So just wondering. It says they have no religios head. So if you make the religion big enough and take over the moral authority will they have no Pope?

[Volus Pizza Service]

I think that there will be a Catholic pope regardless of whether it is the dominant religion, so the Pope would still exist, but would be the head of a Cathar heresy.

[Nehebsis]

Since Sons of Abraham whenever a heresy becomes more dominant than the mainbranch of the religion the heresy will become the mainbranch and chistianity will become a heresy. There for it's very well possible to appoint a pope as Cathar. I'm not sure though. I have never tried to make a heresy the primary branch of a religion.

[VoiceGS]

Hey

I don't think you can actually have a religious head as the Cathar. The only Christian Heresy that can have a religious head is Fratacelli. The rest don't. Which is kinda crap cause it would be cool to play around with it.

Try checking the ck2 wiki (not wikia) and you will have the info there.

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[ExisT]

No, cathar religion never has a head, whcih means no excommunications, invasions etc

But you also get access to Absolute Cognatic and women can lead your armies.

[Cheese]

Well there are other "Popes" for Christian religions but of Catholic heresies only the Fraticelli can have a Pope. Once you make a Fraticelli pope, he's duke level as opposed to Catholic which is king level so you can vassalize him and you don't need to be an Emperor.

[Empiro]

As the others have said -- no religious head and no Crusades can be declared. That's the weakness of Cathars. The strengths of course are Absolute Cognatic and female councilars / commanders.

[ChalkStorm]

Having no religious head was sort of a vital part of the whole cathar thing.

[markdb92]

by having no religion head is actually a weakness ie cant stay at 100% ma before it drops down to 70% and lower. A religion head keeps it stablized. I would only stay cathar until all catholic releams are taken out.

[mitchincredible]

You can get absolute cognatic from Basque culture as well, I don't like religions without interesting mechanics or hilarious things you can do. What I've been attempting in games lately is to have the Pope and Ecumenical patriarch as vassals with the Fraticelli pope a vassal of the pople and the Paulician patriarch and Coptic pope as vassals of the Ecumenical patriarch.

I find the best way to do it is to start as a coptic nation then eat up the byzantine empire and convert to orthodox after making the coptic pope the vassal of the ecumenical patriarch, then you mend the schism and make catholicism a heresy, convert to catholicism and form an anti-pope, then take The Papacy. The hard part after that is converting to Fraticelli, but after wrecking the Pope, moral authority should be low enough to give a good spawn chance of heresies.

[Razorblade]

The first two comments are incorrect. There is no religious head for Cathars, no matter what.