Are you suppose to make Vassal Republics and Bishoprics?

[Lightsout21]

I was looking at the HRE on a 1066 playthrough and they had a few Bishoprics and Republics. Are there good bonuses in creating these, and if so how do you create them?

[Sol]

To create one as a vassal the capital holding must be a city (republic) or church (bishopric). Then you assign a noble/mayor to the city and priest to the church. This can bite you hard, but it can also really help you.

[Pippin123]

Making a vassal Republic is simply trading off some Levies for (much) increased Cash.
A republic (especially if you set it up in a quiet corner without competition from Venice & co), will develop a trade zone and start to rake in tons of cash , and thus pay you tons of taxes (at city rate)

To create your own republic, grant the county title to the mayor of a COASTAL city.
He becomes a Lord Mayor.
Now grant him the Duchy title, and he will create a new republic (with Patrician families, trade posts etc...)

Never saw the point of Prince Bishops though.

[ShadoWwolF]

Originally posted by Pippin123:

Never saw the point of Prince Bishops though.

its easier to make them like you by just having good traits (like the 7 virtues or zealous) and high piety so they're more loyal than regular feudal vassals. on top of that they pay you taxes (although not as much as a republic) while still providing levies

EDIT: also lastly powerfully landed bishops have a significantly higher chance of becoming a cardinal and then becoming a pope. so if you had a large empire with a lot of count and duke level bishops then you would have a much easier time getting bishops elected. if you're somebody that actually cares about the papal elections and cardinals

[stars2heaven]

Prince bishops pay more taxes than regular feudal lords and provide more levies than patricians. They also rarely plot, don't care about waging wars, and rebel very infrequently. They are good to have purely for the sake of stability.

[Lightsout21]

Ok so the steps to do this is:
-Give mayor of a city within a county the county title
-do same for the rest of the counties within a duchy
-give one Lord Mayor the duchy title

As for the Prince Bishop I guess they work the same execpt they might give their money to the Pope. I also saw that you get a -30 opinion modifier from them. I'll try an Ireland campaign and make half of Ireland a Republic and Prince-Bishop to see how it works.

Thanks for the answers

[Lightsout21]

Do I need the Republic dlc? I only have Old Gods and Legacy of Rome.

[MiX]

prince bishops rarely pay taxes or provide levies because they so often have 100 opinion with the pope and the pope gets the tiebreaker if the bishop has 100 opinion with both. This usually results in a duchy that rarely pays taxes or provides levies.

[aaronmv]

Originally posted by MiX:

prince bishops rarely pay taxes or provide levies because they so often have 100 opinion with the pope and the pope gets the tiebreaker if the bishop has 100 opinion with both. This usually results in a duchy that rarely pays taxes or provides levies.

There is an exception to this - the Prince-Bishopric of Benevento. The reason for this is that the Pope controls the barony in the county of Benevento, which is held by the Prince-Bishop. As a result, he has a relation penalty against the Pope for desiring the barony.

This usually guarantees that he likes you more than he likes the Pope. Moreso if you have Free Investiture.

[markdb92]

The funny thing I noticed if u have say arch-bishop as your vassal and his de jure king wants him u can grant the bishop a strong claim to the king thus prompting the arch-bishop to go to war with the king. If ca is low your bishop should attack the king to become a king -bishop

[Evil Crusader]

Originally posted by Lightsout21:

Do I need the Republic dlc? I only have Old Gods and Legacy of Rome.

No, you can have vassal Republics without the need for any DLC whatsoever.